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<p>[QUOTE="the Dassler, post: 1866755, member: 14571"]Good Morning and thank you all for your feedback. I will try to answer and or provide additional information as best as I can.</p><p><br /></p><p>For VeryBrad, here is a photo I shot as I was applying an oil finish without color or enhancement (it is called an NPO finish from Zweihorn).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]243774[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Lara9797, First photo shows inside of rails (top to top) with yellow pine support removed (also shows saw blade marks which I measured to determine that it was a 36-38 inch saw mill that cut the lumber) due to deterioration of the wood from age and whatnot, (second photo) I milled out and replaced damaged wood with walnut so I could re-secure the hardware that has been on the bed since in my family. This is however not the original hardware. Third photo is of the posts, this too had to be milled so I could reset the locking plates. As you can see the original hardware was quite a bit larger than what I currently have. Again, the wood was damaged enough and the depth was somewhat inconsistent, to I carefully milled removing as little as possible and then glued in a new piece of walnut that was then milled to fit the current hardware. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]243775[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]243776[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]243777[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Komokwa, Yes, I need to clean my shop.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bronwen, The mattress from when I was a kid, was a latex foam that was roughly 37x73 inches, and I never had a box spring. A twin sheet could be stretched over it though due to the shorter length.</p><p><br /></p><p>Auitaine and Cecelia G Swart, Thank you both for your feedback. Here in Germany it is much easier to get a custom mattress, although it will still set us back € 300,00. And thank you for the welcome.</p><p><br /></p><p>James Conrad, I am new to studying antiques, so please forgive my using the wrong "period" for the bed. I don't think it is older than 1820 due to what I think being a Federal or Empire style and the fact that the saw marks prove that a circular saw was used at least when the wood was rough cut. Also, and again I am no expert, most examples of early beds (pre 1800) that I have seen photo's of also don't appear to use any kind of interlocking hardware for the side rails. But I don't know when that was introduced. Nice pictures by the way of the bed you sent as examples...Thank you.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ghopper1924, Also, Thank you for your input.</p><p><br /></p><p>Additional thoughts that I had, additional information that I forgot, and additional findings from that most reliable source...the internet.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I began this process, it was simply to take my childhood bed and repair it for my son (he is outgrowing his bed- Kids European standard from that great quality furniture maker IKEA). </p><p><br /></p><p>My parents have a set of twin beds from the 1960's that also use slats, and naturally fit a standard twin mattress and box springs while consistent in height from floor as this bed using only slats and mattress (not conclusive). However these beds are a combination of solid and engineered wood and the wood itself is in considerably better condition. </p><p><br /></p><p>The finish on this bed appears to only have been oil or maybe oil and wax but I see little to no evidence of wax clogging my sandpaper, so I will say oil. My Mother always used old English lemon oil once or twice a year on most of the furniture in our house when I was growing up (but not the dark one).</p><p><br /></p><p>The use of what appears to be yellow pine on the side rails points me South. The earliest known use of a circular sawmill would have been around 1817-1820. I don't have a good photo of the cut nails used to attach (with glue) the yellow pine of the side rails but from other photo's I have seen, I would say that they where likely hand cut.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a cabinet maker, there are things I would do and things I would not do (not conclusive but food for thought). The word "Single" written in script on one side rail, makes me believe that the bed was produced in a work shop and not in someones barn or garage. To me it suggests that they had more than one project and needed to distinguish what the parts were intended for. I would be curious when the use of the word single became standard when describing a bed size.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also the different technique of joining the head board from the foot board also suggest that it might have been two different people doing the work (I tend to stick to one technique on a given project).</p><p><br /></p><p>The four different posts, the hand planed wood...</p><p><br /></p><p>From what I have read, again I am no expert and the internet is not always trustworthy, modernised woodworking shops started more after 1860.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you all again, and I welcome more thoughts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="the Dassler, post: 1866755, member: 14571"]Good Morning and thank you all for your feedback. I will try to answer and or provide additional information as best as I can. For VeryBrad, here is a photo I shot as I was applying an oil finish without color or enhancement (it is called an NPO finish from Zweihorn). [ATTACH=full]243774[/ATTACH] Lara9797, First photo shows inside of rails (top to top) with yellow pine support removed (also shows saw blade marks which I measured to determine that it was a 36-38 inch saw mill that cut the lumber) due to deterioration of the wood from age and whatnot, (second photo) I milled out and replaced damaged wood with walnut so I could re-secure the hardware that has been on the bed since in my family. This is however not the original hardware. Third photo is of the posts, this too had to be milled so I could reset the locking plates. As you can see the original hardware was quite a bit larger than what I currently have. Again, the wood was damaged enough and the depth was somewhat inconsistent, to I carefully milled removing as little as possible and then glued in a new piece of walnut that was then milled to fit the current hardware. [ATTACH=full]243775[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]243776[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]243777[/ATTACH] Komokwa, Yes, I need to clean my shop. Bronwen, The mattress from when I was a kid, was a latex foam that was roughly 37x73 inches, and I never had a box spring. A twin sheet could be stretched over it though due to the shorter length. Auitaine and Cecelia G Swart, Thank you both for your feedback. Here in Germany it is much easier to get a custom mattress, although it will still set us back € 300,00. And thank you for the welcome. James Conrad, I am new to studying antiques, so please forgive my using the wrong "period" for the bed. I don't think it is older than 1820 due to what I think being a Federal or Empire style and the fact that the saw marks prove that a circular saw was used at least when the wood was rough cut. Also, and again I am no expert, most examples of early beds (pre 1800) that I have seen photo's of also don't appear to use any kind of interlocking hardware for the side rails. But I don't know when that was introduced. Nice pictures by the way of the bed you sent as examples...Thank you. Ghopper1924, Also, Thank you for your input. Additional thoughts that I had, additional information that I forgot, and additional findings from that most reliable source...the internet. As I began this process, it was simply to take my childhood bed and repair it for my son (he is outgrowing his bed- Kids European standard from that great quality furniture maker IKEA). My parents have a set of twin beds from the 1960's that also use slats, and naturally fit a standard twin mattress and box springs while consistent in height from floor as this bed using only slats and mattress (not conclusive). However these beds are a combination of solid and engineered wood and the wood itself is in considerably better condition. The finish on this bed appears to only have been oil or maybe oil and wax but I see little to no evidence of wax clogging my sandpaper, so I will say oil. My Mother always used old English lemon oil once or twice a year on most of the furniture in our house when I was growing up (but not the dark one). The use of what appears to be yellow pine on the side rails points me South. The earliest known use of a circular sawmill would have been around 1817-1820. I don't have a good photo of the cut nails used to attach (with glue) the yellow pine of the side rails but from other photo's I have seen, I would say that they where likely hand cut. As a cabinet maker, there are things I would do and things I would not do (not conclusive but food for thought). The word "Single" written in script on one side rail, makes me believe that the bed was produced in a work shop and not in someones barn or garage. To me it suggests that they had more than one project and needed to distinguish what the parts were intended for. I would be curious when the use of the word single became standard when describing a bed size. Also the different technique of joining the head board from the foot board also suggest that it might have been two different people doing the work (I tend to stick to one technique on a given project). The four different posts, the hand planed wood... From what I have read, again I am no expert and the internet is not always trustworthy, modernised woodworking shops started more after 1860. Thank you all again, and I welcome more thoughts.[/QUOTE]
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