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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 1260895, member: 2844"]I have been doing some digging, because I only came across the name of this specific shape a few weeks ago, here on Antiquers.</p><p>I am used to English Ethnic jewellery terms, where the term fibula is also used for these fibula shapes.</p><p>Apparently the term penannular came into fashion during the 19th century Celtic Revival Movement of the British Isles. It focuses on the shape rather than the function.</p><p>We silly Continentals missed the Celtic Revival, and stuck to naming the thing for the function. So the French site, being French, was right to make the distinction between the function of a fibula (penannular brooch to you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" />) and a (decorative) brooch, like the cicada brooches, on one and the same page.</p><p><br /></p><p>A French seller on Ruby Lane also missed Celtic Revival Movement of the British Isles:</p><p><a href="https://www.rubylane.com/item/759489-boucle1/Antique-Silver-14k-Yellow-Gold-Fibula?search=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rubylane.com/item/759489-boucle1/Antique-Silver-14k-Yellow-Gold-Fibula?search=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.rubylane.com/item/759489-boucle1/Antique-Silver-14k-Yellow-Gold-Fibula?search=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Oops, a British seller did as well, and from a Celtic region too, Cornwall. Apparently it is a matter of choice:</p><p><a href="https://www.rubylane.com/item/896152-001539/Antique-French-Provencal-Fibula-brooch-800" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rubylane.com/item/896152-001539/Antique-French-Provencal-Fibula-brooch-800" rel="nofollow">https://www.rubylane.com/item/896152-001539/Antique-French-Provencal-Fibula-brooch-800</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another French fibula reference, Berber fibulae/fibulas:</p><p><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibule_berb%C3%A8re" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibule_berb%C3%A8re" rel="nofollow">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibule_berbère</a></p><p><br /></p><p>An English Ethnic jewellery forum, where the term fibula is also used in English:</p><p><a href="http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/main/search/search?q=fibula" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/main/search/search?q=fibula" rel="nofollow">http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/main/search/search?q=fibula</a></p><p>This is a fibula on their site:</p><p><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2393306845?profile=original&width=95" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/photo/mzab-fibula" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/photo/mzab-fibula" rel="nofollow">http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/photo/mzab-fibula</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the Dutch page on the Dutch Dorestad fibula, which is a disc rather than the arch or the part-ring shape:</p><p><a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibula_van_Dorestad" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibula_van_Dorestad" rel="nofollow">https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibula_van_Dorestad</a></p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Leiden-dorestad.jpg/1024px-Leiden-dorestad.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>To give you an idea of the construction, here is another one with a pic of the back, this fibula is Belgian, same period as the one above:</p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Top_or_Topic_%28CC%2C_Maastricht%29%2C_schijffibulae_uit_Rosmeer_3.jpg/1920px-Top_or_Topic_%28CC%2C_Maastricht%29%2C_schijffibulae_uit_Rosmeer_3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Don't get me wrong, I do understand that you, as a native speaker of English, would prefer the term you know. But please accept the fact that not everyone is acquainted with the influence the Celtic Revival had on the English language, and French, Dutch, and other Continentals still use the old terms, as do North Africans.</p><p>And please accept the fact that our historians are right to use the old terms, because of the simple fact that we have a different history. So the Provençal fibula will have to remain a Provençal fibula.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I will try to remember the sensitivity regarding the preference for the name of the shape when I come across another part-ring-shaped fibula on this site. Penannular!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie75" alt=":playful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(You will probably have to remind me. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie19" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p>But, to avoid confusion for anyone who comes across posts of non-British Isles Celtic jewellery, I will still use the word fibula for those items which are internationally known as fibula, like the ones in the links I posted, and in the earlier French link.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 1260895, member: 2844"]I have been doing some digging, because I only came across the name of this specific shape a few weeks ago, here on Antiquers. I am used to English Ethnic jewellery terms, where the term fibula is also used for these fibula shapes. Apparently the term penannular came into fashion during the 19th century Celtic Revival Movement of the British Isles. It focuses on the shape rather than the function. We silly Continentals missed the Celtic Revival, and stuck to naming the thing for the function. So the French site, being French, was right to make the distinction between the function of a fibula (penannular brooch to you ;)) and a (decorative) brooch, like the cicada brooches, on one and the same page. A French seller on Ruby Lane also missed Celtic Revival Movement of the British Isles: [URL]https://www.rubylane.com/item/759489-boucle1/Antique-Silver-14k-Yellow-Gold-Fibula?search=1[/URL] Oops, a British seller did as well, and from a Celtic region too, Cornwall. Apparently it is a matter of choice: [URL]https://www.rubylane.com/item/896152-001539/Antique-French-Provencal-Fibula-brooch-800[/URL] Another French fibula reference, Berber fibulae/fibulas: [URL='https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibule_berb%C3%A8re']https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibule_berbère[/URL] An English Ethnic jewellery forum, where the term fibula is also used in English: [URL]http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/main/search/search?q=fibula[/URL] This is a fibula on their site: [IMG]http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2393306845?profile=original&width=95[/IMG] [URL]http://ethnicjewels.ning.com/photo/mzab-fibula[/URL] Here is the Dutch page on the Dutch Dorestad fibula, which is a disc rather than the arch or the part-ring shape: [URL]https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibula_van_Dorestad[/URL] [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Leiden-dorestad.jpg/1024px-Leiden-dorestad.jpg[/IMG] To give you an idea of the construction, here is another one with a pic of the back, this fibula is Belgian, same period as the one above: [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Top_or_Topic_%28CC%2C_Maastricht%29%2C_schijffibulae_uit_Rosmeer_3.jpg/1920px-Top_or_Topic_%28CC%2C_Maastricht%29%2C_schijffibulae_uit_Rosmeer_3.jpg[/IMG] Don't get me wrong, I do understand that you, as a native speaker of English, would prefer the term you know. But please accept the fact that not everyone is acquainted with the influence the Celtic Revival had on the English language, and French, Dutch, and other Continentals still use the old terms, as do North Africans. And please accept the fact that our historians are right to use the old terms, because of the simple fact that we have a different history. So the Provençal fibula will have to remain a Provençal fibula.;) I will try to remember the sensitivity regarding the preference for the name of the shape when I come across another part-ring-shaped fibula on this site. Penannular!:playful: (You will probably have to remind me. :banghead:) But, to avoid confusion for anyone who comes across posts of non-British Isles Celtic jewellery, I will still use the word fibula for those items which are internationally known as fibula, like the ones in the links I posted, and in the earlier French link.[/QUOTE]
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