Featured An art nouveau or art deco pressed glass cicada night lamp shade.

did anyone check François Décorchement ?

 

we shan't exclude Daum completely.

 

Is this yours? or did you find it on the net?
Has the same mold seam through the face as Kyra's cicada.

 

Thanks for your searches, Fid! Decorchemont, Argy Rousseau and Walter worked in pâte de verre/pâte de cristal.
My cicada is not pâte de verre, but pressed molded green glass, visible mold seam, acid frosted details and enamel patina.
For me, the most similar techniques were used by Pierre d'Avesn.

From Artnet, http://www.artnet.com/artists/pierre-davesn/
on this vase, pressed molded green glass, visible mold seam, acid frosted details and enamel patina.

he made lamps.



https://www.antiquers.com/threads/i-found-a-p-davesn-glass-ashtray-today.21577/
he used the same green glass:


Still searching...

 

About Pierre d'Avesn, alas in French, use Google translate!
He worked with Lalique, Daum, Decorchemont, Verlys.
https://leverreetlecristal.wordpres...esn-1901-1990-le-verrier-de-lepoque-art-deco/

 

A P. d'Avesn night lamp:
http://www.artz.fr/fr_veilleuses_details.php?id=2554

 

I have a similar glass ball with fish somewhere . will look into it deeper tomorrow.

 

Will you show us?

 

Found on the Internet, I'm afraid. Having live turtles, I also have an assortment of decorative turtles & also love art glass, so, one for me. Supposed to be Walter.

 

As for whether the Napoleonic insects were bees or cicadas, if you thought you were the bees knees & your family name was Bonaparte, wouldn't you go with bees, just as you did if your name was Barberini? /""" [Pontiac gets excited at the thought of any kind of bug.] The Chilperic/Childeric critters do not look like cicadas to me. Given the ancient positive associations with bees, suspect they are also abeilles.

 

is it possible that the most widespread ones in France are not known elsewhere ?

 

It rather does say 'you'.

 

Terry found this one on his shoe (USA)!
https://www.antiquers.com/threads/finds-thread.137/page-949

 

Not only that, kyra is French and still lives in France, I have seen cicadas in many parts of the world, including France. I'd like to think we both recognize cicadas, just like many other forum members.
The Childeric court and grave were in Belgium, btw, not in France.

When researchers find something, they often interpret it in their own way. That was even more the case in the 17th century.
The Childeric grave is the only grave ever found to be identified as Merovingian. Childeric was buried at the time of the Great Migration, not the best period in Belgian history. Next to nothing was known of Merovingian culture and symbolism, so those good folks in the 17th century guessed what some of the objects were.
When the Childeric grave and treasure were found, there was no discussion by historians, specialists in semiotics or scientists as to the identity and symbolism of the insects. The researchers were a doctor to the Low Countries Habsburg court, and later on an abbot. Neither professions are generally associated with a great knowledge of entomology, but I suspect the abbot had some knowledge of Antiquity and of semiotics. Which could have led him to the deduction the insects must be bees.

Childeric's court was in the part of Europe now known as Belgium, as was his grave, in Doornik/Tournai. Not cicada country. What is more, the two remaining insects don't look like cicadas. Or even Low Countries or northern French crickets.
Merovingian culture was Frankish, but also influenced by Roman culture. Bees were an important symbol in Roman and other cultures of the ancient world. Whether bee symbolism is important when it comes to the Childeric treasure, we don't know.

Fid, I know you would like the Childeric insects to be cicadas, which is fine, of course. But you were the one who brought up Napoleon, and as I said before, what is relevant when it comes to Napoleon, is what he though the insects were. Which is bees.

 

Completely unrelated, just my new favorite French royal house animal: House of Orleans, Castle of Blois:

 

castle of Blois is very nice. wonderful staircases in the court, beautiful interior etc., but alas very unfriendly personel.

 

Would you say they're a bit prickly?

 

the problem is, that they are - what is called in Switzerland - statal fix salary cripples. no education, but thinking themselves a sort of police to chase around people when they don't follow the exact ways; when you want to go back a bit to have a second glimpse - no chance.
besides that - the Loire Valley is besides the ancient buildings and city centres completely boring. a bit like Belgium or the Netherlands.

 

Uh oh. Them's fighting words around here.

 

I loved Belgium and the people when I visited Ostend several years ago .. have wonderful memories of it ... Joy.