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<p>[QUOTE="SYNCHRONCITY, post: 2162469, member: 6283"]I was wrong according to the link you posted. I was mistaken because I had an older antique porcelain reference book (forgot the name of it) over 10 years ago that showed the slightly squiggly mark crossing through two parallel lines as Sitzendorf. Some of the Sitzendorf crossed lines marks I have seen in this book showed as straight lines too and were also shown as examples of their marks in this out of print book that was written sometime in the 80's.</p><p><br /></p><p>Since my reference book is older, the attribution may have been off because some newer information may have come to light and some of those older reference books need to be updated. If I find it, I will post pictures and show you what I mean about the marks attributed to Sitzendorf.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some Japanese companies sometime in the 1950's used to make reproduction style German bisque pieces like this, but OP's looks like it is an older German piece. The reason I say this is because of the pushed in pupils on the eyes. Better antique bisque figures generally had those pushed in pupils and the newer contemporary pieces usually almost always lack this feature.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only other German company that made really poor quality bisque figurals which were sometimes as poor as the Japanese ones, were by Hertwig and Limbach. They made bisque figurals sometime around the very end of the 1800's-early 20th Century. Most of them (not all) were made of very thin bisque and were poorly painted, but OP's bisque looks like it is of nice quality.</p><p><br /></p><p>With that being said, there were some companies in the US like ArnArt Imports who used to import and sell Japanese bisque figures in the mid 20th Century that looked like old time German pieces. The Japanese ones were very light weight and poorly painted. I wonder if the OP can weigh the piece for us to give us an idea of the weight. Weighing it won't give us a 100% definitive answer of it's quality, but it helps us because good quality, old German bisque has weight to it. The more contemporary copies were very thin and lightweight.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Other German companies used crossed hatch (lines) marks too such as Alt Beck & Gottschalck, Von Schierholtz/Plaue and quite a few others.</p><p><br /></p><p>I used to collect and sell lots of German bisque figures until I moved on to collecting antique bisque head dolls. There were a lot of German manufacturing firms making bisque, so pinpointing an exact factory may be difficult. There were porcelain making factories that faked German, French and other major porcelain manufacturer marks too such as the French firm Samson.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope the OP can give us some more photos of the details so we can look over his or her piece better to truly clue us all in on how old this piece is. From the few pics I see here, it does look old, but I am not an expert and can easily be wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry if I caused any confusion earlier.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SYNCHRONCITY, post: 2162469, member: 6283"]I was wrong according to the link you posted. I was mistaken because I had an older antique porcelain reference book (forgot the name of it) over 10 years ago that showed the slightly squiggly mark crossing through two parallel lines as Sitzendorf. Some of the Sitzendorf crossed lines marks I have seen in this book showed as straight lines too and were also shown as examples of their marks in this out of print book that was written sometime in the 80's. Since my reference book is older, the attribution may have been off because some newer information may have come to light and some of those older reference books need to be updated. If I find it, I will post pictures and show you what I mean about the marks attributed to Sitzendorf. Some Japanese companies sometime in the 1950's used to make reproduction style German bisque pieces like this, but OP's looks like it is an older German piece. The reason I say this is because of the pushed in pupils on the eyes. Better antique bisque figures generally had those pushed in pupils and the newer contemporary pieces usually almost always lack this feature. The only other German company that made really poor quality bisque figurals which were sometimes as poor as the Japanese ones, were by Hertwig and Limbach. They made bisque figurals sometime around the very end of the 1800's-early 20th Century. Most of them (not all) were made of very thin bisque and were poorly painted, but OP's bisque looks like it is of nice quality. With that being said, there were some companies in the US like ArnArt Imports who used to import and sell Japanese bisque figures in the mid 20th Century that looked like old time German pieces. The Japanese ones were very light weight and poorly painted. I wonder if the OP can weigh the piece for us to give us an idea of the weight. Weighing it won't give us a 100% definitive answer of it's quality, but it helps us because good quality, old German bisque has weight to it. The more contemporary copies were very thin and lightweight. Other German companies used crossed hatch (lines) marks too such as Alt Beck & Gottschalck, Von Schierholtz/Plaue and quite a few others. I used to collect and sell lots of German bisque figures until I moved on to collecting antique bisque head dolls. There were a lot of German manufacturing firms making bisque, so pinpointing an exact factory may be difficult. There were porcelain making factories that faked German, French and other major porcelain manufacturer marks too such as the French firm Samson. I hope the OP can give us some more photos of the details so we can look over his or her piece better to truly clue us all in on how old this piece is. From the few pics I see here, it does look old, but I am not an expert and can easily be wrong. Sorry if I caused any confusion earlier.[/QUOTE]
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