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<p>[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 1566816, member: 13464"]Wow! Great new pics! Let's see if I can "see" anything else!</p><p>#1. Is it truly a "cut" edge along the bottom edge of the linen (bottom of the photo) ... or does it look like a "selvage edge" because it is so heavily starched?</p><p><br /></p><p>#2. I have tried to draw a line where I believe the two lengths of the wide lace panel is joined. See photo #"alter query2-LI".</p><p><br /></p><p>In regard to your photo #2.</p><p>#3. Your photo #2 is very interesting. With close observation... (see header edge 1 pic) I'm wondering why every other bar is very diagonal... leading me to wonder if only every other bar comes out of the fabric? Or does that bar go up to the linen; sewn on and come back into the lace... meaning that the lace is actually "sewn" on - using a *selvage edge rather than utilizing threads from the linen fabric to create it's base grid? What does the other side of the piece look like... is it folded, sewn fabric like a hem? or truly just one piece of fabric? It looks thicker than one layer along that edge (where I've drawn the sample edge).</p><p><br /></p><p>*Refer to "torchon lace edge selvage" photo - showing a straight edge or "selvage" at the top.</p><p><br /></p><p>#4. In photo 3 "crown edge"... you can see that the stitches are very tight and "clean" (not the crown part added to the heart part) - it appears to have been made in all one piece.</p><p><br /></p><p>#5. If we refer back to your photo #2 - you can see where the crown edge extends up the side of the heart pattern lace (at a 90 degrees from how it runs in your photo of the "crown edge") and continues up the side of the wider top part of the lace with the vines and grapes. If we look at "crown edge 2" - I have indicated that the crown edge appears to be either "cut" along this line OR a *selvage was created at the point where it needed to travel opposite to the length of the heart design lace (and further up the lace with the flowers and vines).</p><p><br /></p><p>Comparing the "join reduction" photo with the "crown edge 2" photo; you can see where the solid or "cloth like" area marked in blue reduces itself down to nothing lower in the photo. I assume that the photo is the backside. But the point is: It does not appear to me, that the heart/crown lace was "cut" (separating the heart part with the crown part); as it is so "flat"; but, it leads me to wonder... at what point does the design for the edging change from heart AND crown to "just" crown? Is it at the corner?</p><p><br /></p><p>IF it is NOT cut (separating the heart part with the crown part)... and a selvage was planned to allow the crown edge to be applied to the vertical edges of the piece... this would have taken QUITE a lot of precision planning... as it would have been much easier to either leave the heart part ON or just lop it off and worry how to sew it on with loose thread later...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 1566816, member: 13464"]Wow! Great new pics! Let's see if I can "see" anything else! #1. Is it truly a "cut" edge along the bottom edge of the linen (bottom of the photo) ... or does it look like a "selvage edge" because it is so heavily starched? #2. I have tried to draw a line where I believe the two lengths of the wide lace panel is joined. See photo #"alter query2-LI". In regard to your photo #2. #3. Your photo #2 is very interesting. With close observation... (see header edge 1 pic) I'm wondering why every other bar is very diagonal... leading me to wonder if only every other bar comes out of the fabric? Or does that bar go up to the linen; sewn on and come back into the lace... meaning that the lace is actually "sewn" on - using a *selvage edge rather than utilizing threads from the linen fabric to create it's base grid? What does the other side of the piece look like... is it folded, sewn fabric like a hem? or truly just one piece of fabric? It looks thicker than one layer along that edge (where I've drawn the sample edge). *Refer to "torchon lace edge selvage" photo - showing a straight edge or "selvage" at the top. #4. In photo 3 "crown edge"... you can see that the stitches are very tight and "clean" (not the crown part added to the heart part) - it appears to have been made in all one piece. #5. If we refer back to your photo #2 - you can see where the crown edge extends up the side of the heart pattern lace (at a 90 degrees from how it runs in your photo of the "crown edge") and continues up the side of the wider top part of the lace with the vines and grapes. If we look at "crown edge 2" - I have indicated that the crown edge appears to be either "cut" along this line OR a *selvage was created at the point where it needed to travel opposite to the length of the heart design lace (and further up the lace with the flowers and vines). Comparing the "join reduction" photo with the "crown edge 2" photo; you can see where the solid or "cloth like" area marked in blue reduces itself down to nothing lower in the photo. I assume that the photo is the backside. But the point is: It does not appear to me, that the heart/crown lace was "cut" (separating the heart part with the crown part); as it is so "flat"; but, it leads me to wonder... at what point does the design for the edging change from heart AND crown to "just" crown? Is it at the corner? IF it is NOT cut (separating the heart part with the crown part)... and a selvage was planned to allow the crown edge to be applied to the vertical edges of the piece... this would have taken QUITE a lot of precision planning... as it would have been much easier to either leave the heart part ON or just lop it off and worry how to sew it on with loose thread later...[/QUOTE]
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