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<p>[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 1564744, member: 13464"]Based on what I can see in the photos; and without touching or physically seeing it; here are my thoughts:</p><p><br /></p><p>Although the top part (with the grapes and leaves) does have the "look" of a crocheted filet lace or a darned netted lace; it is not... the big clue here is the way that the small background "squares" are made. In crocheted filet - they would be looped stitches (see Darkwing Manor's star lace photo); in darned netted lace - there would be a single knot at each corner of the square grid. See photo "oth277a" and "antique italian hand knotted net". The 2nd photo's design is truly similiar to the query piece. But; it isn't made the same way.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the query example, from what I can see: the small background squares appear to be made by drawing warp or weft threads together by wrapping a bundle of threads with a new thread. This is truly an older technique and closer related to "reticella" or "lacis". See photo "22095-007". Although, the technique shown in the photo is similiar to the query piece; it is still a little different.... as it has "double" bars that make squares rather than a single bar; but I think that is insignificant and more of a design feature rather than a difference in technique.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reticella definition is - an early needlepoint lace derived from cutwork and drawn work and made by buttonholing geometric patterns on or over a fabric. Generally made from the 15th century to the early 17th century.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lacis definition is - a square mesh lace with darned patterns.</p><p><br /></p><p>As an observation: the wide upper panel was probably made in two horizontal sections which is why there is a slight color variation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Moving on to the lower lace with the scalloped edge: It does have elements of being made with bobbins - ie: diamond and twisted bars. A geometric style bobbin lace is usually worked on a very specific "prepricked" grid - giving a very uniform appearance to the entire length. See "Torchon Lace" photo.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the case of the query piece: The design elements - the rather smashed looking hearts (which appear to have a slightly heavier outline) and the crown shape feature in the lower scallops remind me of design elements found in Scandinavian bobbin laces.</p><p><br /></p><p>I found this example of a Scandinavian bobbin lace peasant cap - in which the cloth work is very smashed and squished as is the query example and the openwork "grid" is very similiar. The example says that it dates from the 1600-1900's... quite a wide range there! There are some forms of Scandinavian lace that rather than being made on a pre-pricked grid; are made on a lace "roller" pillow that has a striped fabric as a background. They can judge the stitches by the stripes. So it is possible that it is one of these forms.</p><p><br /></p><p>In closing: I do believe that the top part is a needle worked form - using lacis or reticella techniques. The bottom edge I believe is a form of bobbin lace. To give it a more specific name; is difficult...given that it lacks elements that would classify it as one form or another. I have no reason not to agree with the seller's age classification. I do believe it is quite old.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 1564744, member: 13464"]Based on what I can see in the photos; and without touching or physically seeing it; here are my thoughts: Although the top part (with the grapes and leaves) does have the "look" of a crocheted filet lace or a darned netted lace; it is not... the big clue here is the way that the small background "squares" are made. In crocheted filet - they would be looped stitches (see Darkwing Manor's star lace photo); in darned netted lace - there would be a single knot at each corner of the square grid. See photo "oth277a" and "antique italian hand knotted net". The 2nd photo's design is truly similiar to the query piece. But; it isn't made the same way. In the query example, from what I can see: the small background squares appear to be made by drawing warp or weft threads together by wrapping a bundle of threads with a new thread. This is truly an older technique and closer related to "reticella" or "lacis". See photo "22095-007". Although, the technique shown in the photo is similiar to the query piece; it is still a little different.... as it has "double" bars that make squares rather than a single bar; but I think that is insignificant and more of a design feature rather than a difference in technique. Reticella definition is - an early needlepoint lace derived from cutwork and drawn work and made by buttonholing geometric patterns on or over a fabric. Generally made from the 15th century to the early 17th century. Lacis definition is - a square mesh lace with darned patterns. As an observation: the wide upper panel was probably made in two horizontal sections which is why there is a slight color variation. Moving on to the lower lace with the scalloped edge: It does have elements of being made with bobbins - ie: diamond and twisted bars. A geometric style bobbin lace is usually worked on a very specific "prepricked" grid - giving a very uniform appearance to the entire length. See "Torchon Lace" photo. In the case of the query piece: The design elements - the rather smashed looking hearts (which appear to have a slightly heavier outline) and the crown shape feature in the lower scallops remind me of design elements found in Scandinavian bobbin laces. I found this example of a Scandinavian bobbin lace peasant cap - in which the cloth work is very smashed and squished as is the query example and the openwork "grid" is very similiar. The example says that it dates from the 1600-1900's... quite a wide range there! There are some forms of Scandinavian lace that rather than being made on a pre-pricked grid; are made on a lace "roller" pillow that has a striped fabric as a background. They can judge the stitches by the stripes. So it is possible that it is one of these forms. In closing: I do believe that the top part is a needle worked form - using lacis or reticella techniques. The bottom edge I believe is a form of bobbin lace. To give it a more specific name; is difficult...given that it lacks elements that would classify it as one form or another. I have no reason not to agree with the seller's age classification. I do believe it is quite old.[/QUOTE]
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