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<p>[QUOTE="mirana, post: 9562129, member: 79705"]I HAD TO HAVE HER. Look at his ridiculous grin and staring eyeballs. Now I have a couple of mysteries maybe y'all can help me solve. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie25" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Subject? Signature?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]457642[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The subject: A woman with a seemingly Roman style dress with a shepherd's crook or staff holding what appears to be a jolly head. I thought he might be wearing a wig, but it appears it might be a headband over long hair.</p><p><br /></p><p>The usual suspects: Judith and Holofernes? Salome and St John? Oracle and Orpheus?</p><p><br /></p><p>Judith is usually shown with another woman and dressed a bit more lavishly. The image of the deed being done is usually what is seen. What of the staff?</p><p><br /></p><p>Salome was a princess so she's usually dressed well (or not dressed at all) and John's head is usually on a platter. The staff could be his, although it's usually a sword in these images. However, John usually has a beard and a halo. I'm also questioning the woman that would show her faith with this image of the saint. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie39" alt=":dead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Orpheus would be a good choice for a grinning/seemingly alive head, but he's shown with his lyre. No shepherdesses in his tale that I can find, but plenty of women.</p><p><br /></p><p>A different saint? But why no halo! Not a head, but a mask? It has eyes! Perhaps a sculpture? Some other head-like object? A bit late for the guillotine as well, unfortunately.</p><p><br /></p><p>And who is the woman that would wear this (besides me) because it is a very bombastic, attention-getting frame. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/cool.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]457643[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]457644[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The back is signed "Dol" at the top, "3" at the right under the needle, and "Ales" at the bottom. I re-read the cameo signatures thread and "Dol" seems to very closely match the <a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-35" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-35">"Dolcini"</a> signatures there, including the one instance of him only signing with the first 3 letters. He signed with other artists, so perhaps this is an Alessini (<a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-36#post-4488332" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-36#post-4488332">link of 1856 listing</a> from PepperAnna)? Dolcini's first name was Alessandro but it seems an odd way of signing one's name. Big thanks to [USER=17332]@PepperAnna[/USER] and [USER=5833]@Bronwen[/USER] for all the work they did on Dolcini's signature. I thought for sure "Dol" was a lost cause. I should have faith. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":D" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone seen this image in a painting or heard a tale that fits?? Please help! I must know her! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mirana, post: 9562129, member: 79705"]I HAD TO HAVE HER. Look at his ridiculous grin and staring eyeballs. Now I have a couple of mysteries maybe y'all can help me solve. :bookworm: Subject? Signature? [ATTACH=full]457642[/ATTACH] The subject: A woman with a seemingly Roman style dress with a shepherd's crook or staff holding what appears to be a jolly head. I thought he might be wearing a wig, but it appears it might be a headband over long hair. The usual suspects: Judith and Holofernes? Salome and St John? Oracle and Orpheus? Judith is usually shown with another woman and dressed a bit more lavishly. The image of the deed being done is usually what is seen. What of the staff? Salome was a princess so she's usually dressed well (or not dressed at all) and John's head is usually on a platter. The staff could be his, although it's usually a sword in these images. However, John usually has a beard and a halo. I'm also questioning the woman that would show her faith with this image of the saint. :dead: Orpheus would be a good choice for a grinning/seemingly alive head, but he's shown with his lyre. No shepherdesses in his tale that I can find, but plenty of women. A different saint? But why no halo! Not a head, but a mask? It has eyes! Perhaps a sculpture? Some other head-like object? A bit late for the guillotine as well, unfortunately. And who is the woman that would wear this (besides me) because it is a very bombastic, attention-getting frame. :cool: [ATTACH=full]457643[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]457644[/ATTACH] The back is signed "Dol" at the top, "3" at the right under the needle, and "Ales" at the bottom. I re-read the cameo signatures thread and "Dol" seems to very closely match the [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-35']"Dolcini"[/URL] signatures there, including the one instance of him only signing with the first 3 letters. He signed with other artists, so perhaps this is an Alessini ([URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/cameo-signature-help-needed.38228/page-36#post-4488332']link of 1856 listing[/URL] from PepperAnna)? Dolcini's first name was Alessandro but it seems an odd way of signing one's name. Big thanks to [USER=17332]@PepperAnna[/USER] and [USER=5833]@Bronwen[/USER] for all the work they did on Dolcini's signature. I thought for sure "Dol" was a lost cause. I should have faith. :D Anyone seen this image in a painting or heard a tale that fits?? Please help! I must know her! :arghh:[/QUOTE]
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