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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;evelyb30, post: 9459499, member: 36&quot;]They both scream modern for me too. The &quot;crude&quot; part nonwithstanding, the designs just don&#039;t look old unless you count late 1980s/early 1990s as &quot;old&quot;.&nbsp; (I&#039;m too darned old to think things made when I was an adult are old!)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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