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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 2429881, member: 111"]The form and decoration would be typical of a Russian 'stopka' (vodka cup), but they have often been used as L'Chaim or toasting cups (sometimes called small Kiddush cups) and similar are still produced as such, as well as footed forms. Because Judaica is desirable, the Russian vodka cups are often offered as 'Kiddush cups', but it's rarely the case - and though in the Russian style (their engraving was also often simple and somewhat carelessly done) this piece is not Russian, it does not bear the proper marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your first link shows that the cups are still being produced in Israel, available with or without the Magen David, the cup in your second link originally had four identical cups, suggesting a set of L'Chaim cups.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are quite a few similarly marked cups found online, some of those bearing Magen Davids, stamped with either the '84' in cartouche like yours, or the '84' stamped incuse in the same sans-serif font as the 'STERLING', suspect they are most likely .925 fineness and intended for the American market (though Palestine. Interestingly, though engraving isn't really a reliable dating criterion, a quick search found two different engraved with 1930 dates, fitting in with your family history (should be kept in mind that those histories are often incorrect, garbled with time), but it would seem to suggest a dating period - Palestinian silver, especially Judaica, often bore '84P' marks, so that might suggest the cups' origin (should mention that Palestine was a British territory from 1920-48)...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-1930-Judaica-84-Sterling-Silver-Kiddush-Inscribed-Presentation-Cups/254615994400?hash=item3b484bc020:g:GOsAAOSwiwxdaaBM" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-1930-Judaica-84-Sterling-Silver-Kiddush-Inscribed-Presentation-Cups/254615994400?hash=item3b484bc020:g:GOsAAOSwiwxdaaBM" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-1930-Judaica-84-Sterling-Silver-Kiddush-Inscribed-Presentation-Cups/254615994400?hash=item3b484bc020:g:GOsAAOSwiwxdaaBM</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264178[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264179[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Kiddush-Cup-84-Sterling-Silvr-Vodka-Shot-Wine-Cup-Hordoker-R-A-1903-1930/324175558911?hash=item4b7a5e78ff:g:Lv8AAOSwHWJeyW8T" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Kiddush-Cup-84-Sterling-Silvr-Vodka-Shot-Wine-Cup-Hordoker-R-A-1903-1930/324175558911?hash=item4b7a5e78ff:g:Lv8AAOSwHWJeyW8T" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Kiddush-Cup-84-Sterling-Silvr-Vodka-Shot-Wine-Cup-Hordoker-R-A-1903-1930/324175558911?hash=item4b7a5e78ff:g:Lv8AAOSwHWJeyW8T</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264181[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264182[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 2429881, member: 111"]The form and decoration would be typical of a Russian 'stopka' (vodka cup), but they have often been used as L'Chaim or toasting cups (sometimes called small Kiddush cups) and similar are still produced as such, as well as footed forms. Because Judaica is desirable, the Russian vodka cups are often offered as 'Kiddush cups', but it's rarely the case - and though in the Russian style (their engraving was also often simple and somewhat carelessly done) this piece is not Russian, it does not bear the proper marks. Your first link shows that the cups are still being produced in Israel, available with or without the Magen David, the cup in your second link originally had four identical cups, suggesting a set of L'Chaim cups. There are quite a few similarly marked cups found online, some of those bearing Magen Davids, stamped with either the '84' in cartouche like yours, or the '84' stamped incuse in the same sans-serif font as the 'STERLING', suspect they are most likely .925 fineness and intended for the American market (though Palestine. Interestingly, though engraving isn't really a reliable dating criterion, a quick search found two different engraved with 1930 dates, fitting in with your family history (should be kept in mind that those histories are often incorrect, garbled with time), but it would seem to suggest a dating period - Palestinian silver, especially Judaica, often bore '84P' marks, so that might suggest the cups' origin (should mention that Palestine was a British territory from 1920-48)... [URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-1930-Judaica-84-Sterling-Silver-Kiddush-Inscribed-Presentation-Cups/254615994400?hash=item3b484bc020:g:GOsAAOSwiwxdaaBM[/URL] [ATTACH=full]264178[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]264179[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Kiddush-Cup-84-Sterling-Silvr-Vodka-Shot-Wine-Cup-Hordoker-R-A-1903-1930/324175558911?hash=item4b7a5e78ff:g:Lv8AAOSwHWJeyW8T[/URL] [ATTACH=full]264181[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]264182[/ATTACH] ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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