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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 834424, member: 2844"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":D" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Hi Shane, you are right, the Buta Nawasari hilts are of the souvenir type. Not all Buta Nawasari hilt are though.</p><p><br /></p><p>#1</p><p>In spite of its dress the first keris is a real keris, and Balinese. Sometimes those souvenir outfits contain a nice surprise.</p><p>It has 7 luk or waves/curves, which is good for lawyers and winning a debate (in a rather aggressive way). But it is also considered to give the owner an opportunity to move on to the spiritual side of life. It is up to the owner to decide.</p><p>The pamor is Kulit Semangka, 'water melon skin'.</p><p>A bit of copy and paste from another post written by yours truly:</p><p>'Kulit Semangka is a very popular pamor, and one of the easier ones to make, with 16-24 layers.</p><p>Kulit Semangka can be used by anyone (some pamors are reserved for specific professions), and is worn to promote easy social interaction and a way of making a living without too many difficulties.</p><p><br /></p><p>Forging a good keris used to take time, even if it 'only' had 16 layers. Working on a good keris was only done on specific auspicious days, after long meditation.</p><p>Very few keris makers still work like that, which is why they are never considered master keris makers. They are not held in the same regard as the mystics called Empu Keris.'</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>#2</p><p>Is 100% souvenir, and not considered a keris. The pattern is etched in the blade.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>#3</p><p>Is not Balinese, but Madurese with a Balinese hilt.</p><p>When luks seem to hesitate to get started, the blade starting (nearly) straight and then suddenly deciding it wants to be wavy, it is Madurese. Not all Madurese keris have this, but all keris that have it are Madurese.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>The sheath is a Nongko Naga or Daunan Naga. Nongko is jackfruit, Daunan refers to the leaf shape of the long end of the ship. Naga is the dragon/snake decoration.</p><p>The general shape of the ship is centuries old, but the ones with the added Naga became very popular in the second half of the 20th century. They are rarely seen this way on antique sheaths. The old name of the ship is Nongko, Daunan is the current name, but you can come across both names.</p><p><br /></p><p>The keris is a Keris Naga, 15 luk, a spiritual number which leads to excellence. The Naga looks like brass (not gold), it is very nicely made. Could you post a photo of the base of the blade, near the hilt? I would like to see the head of the Naga and the triangle at the centre of the blade, behind the curve of the Naga's body.</p><p><br /></p><p>The pamor is Ilining Warih, also called Banyu Mili and various other names according to the region. It is a pamor you often see on 20th century Keris Naga. Like Kulit Semangka it promotes easy social interaction and a way of making a living without too many difficulties.</p><p>The hilt is a nice quality Balinese hilt which represents the Goddess Durga in her most terrible aspect. </p><p>The uwer/wewer or hilt ring is Balinese as well, brass with glass cabochons.</p><p><br /></p><p>Óne thing about the third one.</p><p>This keris, beautiful though it is, has probably not been 'filled' in the traditional spiritual way. If so, it can't be used for anything spiritual. Some people are bothered by that.</p><p>Both keris and sheath were made in the second half of the 20th century in the village of Aeng Tongtong near Sumenep in East Madura (main island). Most recent Indonesian keris are made there.</p><p>The word Tongtong refers to the sound of the smith's hammers, Aeng means village in Madurese.</p><p>The Aeng Tongtong keris smiths make nice keris for collectors, weddings and other formal occasions, and souvenirs. They also work for keris innovators from other islands.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 834424, member: 2844"]:D Hi Shane, you are right, the Buta Nawasari hilts are of the souvenir type. Not all Buta Nawasari hilt are though. #1 In spite of its dress the first keris is a real keris, and Balinese. Sometimes those souvenir outfits contain a nice surprise. It has 7 luk or waves/curves, which is good for lawyers and winning a debate (in a rather aggressive way). But it is also considered to give the owner an opportunity to move on to the spiritual side of life. It is up to the owner to decide. The pamor is Kulit Semangka, 'water melon skin'. A bit of copy and paste from another post written by yours truly: 'Kulit Semangka is a very popular pamor, and one of the easier ones to make, with 16-24 layers. Kulit Semangka can be used by anyone (some pamors are reserved for specific professions), and is worn to promote easy social interaction and a way of making a living without too many difficulties. Forging a good keris used to take time, even if it 'only' had 16 layers. Working on a good keris was only done on specific auspicious days, after long meditation. Very few keris makers still work like that, which is why they are never considered master keris makers. They are not held in the same regard as the mystics called Empu Keris.' #2 Is 100% souvenir, and not considered a keris. The pattern is etched in the blade. #3 Is not Balinese, but Madurese with a Balinese hilt. When luks seem to hesitate to get started, the blade starting (nearly) straight and then suddenly deciding it wants to be wavy, it is Madurese. Not all Madurese keris have this, but all keris that have it are Madurese.;) The sheath is a Nongko Naga or Daunan Naga. Nongko is jackfruit, Daunan refers to the leaf shape of the long end of the ship. Naga is the dragon/snake decoration. The general shape of the ship is centuries old, but the ones with the added Naga became very popular in the second half of the 20th century. They are rarely seen this way on antique sheaths. The old name of the ship is Nongko, Daunan is the current name, but you can come across both names. The keris is a Keris Naga, 15 luk, a spiritual number which leads to excellence. The Naga looks like brass (not gold), it is very nicely made. Could you post a photo of the base of the blade, near the hilt? I would like to see the head of the Naga and the triangle at the centre of the blade, behind the curve of the Naga's body. The pamor is Ilining Warih, also called Banyu Mili and various other names according to the region. It is a pamor you often see on 20th century Keris Naga. Like Kulit Semangka it promotes easy social interaction and a way of making a living without too many difficulties. The hilt is a nice quality Balinese hilt which represents the Goddess Durga in her most terrible aspect. The uwer/wewer or hilt ring is Balinese as well, brass with glass cabochons. Óne thing about the third one. This keris, beautiful though it is, has probably not been 'filled' in the traditional spiritual way. If so, it can't be used for anything spiritual. Some people are bothered by that. Both keris and sheath were made in the second half of the 20th century in the village of Aeng Tongtong near Sumenep in East Madura (main island). Most recent Indonesian keris are made there. The word Tongtong refers to the sound of the smith's hammers, Aeng means village in Madurese. The Aeng Tongtong keris smiths make nice keris for collectors, weddings and other formal occasions, and souvenirs. They also work for keris innovators from other islands.[/QUOTE]
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