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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 410370, member: 5833"]I realize you are following in a language not your own, so it is natural there will be some misunderstandings.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did not question about Mussolini facing right (we need to clarify whether we are talking about the viewer's right or his own 'proper' right; the profile on the Caruso medal is viewer's right). What I question is the reasoning that goes: Medals of Mussolini show him in profile facing right; this medal has a profile facing right; therefore this is a medal of Mussolini. By that logic about 47% of all portrait medals ever made are Mussolini. Besides:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images.aspireauctions.com/auctions/2015FEB/large/71213-01.jpg?8141783000" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/catalog/343/1748/lot/72811" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/catalog/343/1748/lot/72811" rel="nofollow">https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/catalog/343/1748/lot/72811</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/37/N/6/NQa9nM7ce3oT8WozTiA6tG5i28KfbD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coins_to_medals/37/product/1935_italy__mussolinis_house_of_italians_abroad_medal/337685/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coins_to_medals/37/product/1935_italy__mussolinis_house_of_italians_abroad_medal/337685/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coins_to_medals/37/product/1935_italy__mussolinis_house_of_italians_abroad_medal/337685/Default.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/big/3610637.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=297622" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=297622" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=297622</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.emedals.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/g/r/grc12861.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.emedals.com/mussolini-hitler-silver-medal-g2592" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.emedals.com/mussolini-hitler-silver-medal-g2592" rel="nofollow">https://www.emedals.com/mussolini-hitler-silver-medal-g2592</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I found very few medals of Mussolini on which he faces viewer's right; the majority are proper right.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am not sure I understand this correctly:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Were you told by an auction house where you bought the Caruso medal that it was <b><i>made</i></b> by Caruso? It is not true that: A) every item sold by an auction house is examined & appraised by an in house expert; & B) experts always know what they are talking about. For most items the house accepts the description provided by the consignor, the person who placed the item with them to sell. Consignors also can be wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have explained this several times, using the word 'replica', which means an exact copy. The artists who made medals of Mussolini that have his name by his face could have used a copy of Mussolini's signature in place of the block letters to make it clear who is on the medal. By your logic, the medal of Toscanini must have been made by Toscanini. (Did you look at that thread?)</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not sure medal/medallion is even the correct word for this piece. It is more like a token.</p><p><br /></p><p>We have given you links to a web site dedicated to Nino Caruso twice now. The suggestion that you contact them is a good one.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 410370, member: 5833"]I realize you are following in a language not your own, so it is natural there will be some misunderstandings. I did not question about Mussolini facing right (we need to clarify whether we are talking about the viewer's right or his own 'proper' right; the profile on the Caruso medal is viewer's right). What I question is the reasoning that goes: Medals of Mussolini show him in profile facing right; this medal has a profile facing right; therefore this is a medal of Mussolini. By that logic about 47% of all portrait medals ever made are Mussolini. Besides: [IMG]https://images.aspireauctions.com/auctions/2015FEB/large/71213-01.jpg?8141783000[/IMG] [URL]https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/catalog/343/1748/lot/72811[/URL] [IMG]https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/37/N/6/NQa9nM7ce3oT8WozTiA6tG5i28KfbD.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coins_to_medals/37/product/1935_italy__mussolinis_house_of_italians_abroad_medal/337685/Default.aspx[/URL] [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/big/3610637.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=297622[/URL] [IMG]https://www.emedals.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/g/r/grc12861.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.emedals.com/mussolini-hitler-silver-medal-g2592[/URL] I found very few medals of Mussolini on which he faces viewer's right; the majority are proper right. I am not sure I understand this correctly: Were you told by an auction house where you bought the Caruso medal that it was [B][I]made[/I][/B] by Caruso? It is not true that: A) every item sold by an auction house is examined & appraised by an in house expert; & B) experts always know what they are talking about. For most items the house accepts the description provided by the consignor, the person who placed the item with them to sell. Consignors also can be wrong. I have explained this several times, using the word 'replica', which means an exact copy. The artists who made medals of Mussolini that have his name by his face could have used a copy of Mussolini's signature in place of the block letters to make it clear who is on the medal. By your logic, the medal of Toscanini must have been made by Toscanini. (Did you look at that thread?) I'm not sure medal/medallion is even the correct word for this piece. It is more like a token. We have given you links to a web site dedicated to Nino Caruso twice now. The suggestion that you contact them is a good one.[/QUOTE]
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