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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 2483736, member: 2844"]I would say it looks like a mark for one of the Schijfsma family, so Friesland as well.</p><p>It could be Johannes, but his S, and the mark in general, is more defined, and there is no space between the top of the J and the top of the cartouche.</p><p>A few examples:</p><p><img src="http://www.gzu-online.com/thumb.php?gen=ade178e7aa5da26ce033fccb9dd551da&img=c3JjSW1nPWtldXJ0ZWtlbnMvMTI1OTQyMjAxNl9yZXN4LmpwZyZ0eXBlPW9yaWdpbmFsSW1hZ2UmaW1nSGVhZGVyPXRydWUmZ3JheXNjYWxlPXRydWU=" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.gzu-online.com/thumb.php?gen=ade178e7aa5da26ce033fccb9dd551da&img=c3JjSW1nPWtldXJ0ZWtlbnMvMTM2MDQwNjU1OF9yZXN4LkpQRyZ0eXBlPW9yaWdpbmFsSW1hZ2UmaW1nSGVhZGVyPXRydWUmZ3JheXNjYWxlPXRydWU=" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://www.gzu-online.com/index2.php?page=hallmarks&p=6&land=1&stad=&jl=&keyword=schijfsma&dd_from=1885&dd_to=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gzu-online.com/index2.php?page=hallmarks&p=6&land=1&stad=&jl=&keyword=schijfsma&dd_from=1885&dd_to=" rel="nofollow">http://www.gzu-online.com/index2.php?page=hallmarks&p=6&land=1&stad=&jl=&keyword=schijfsma&dd_from=1885&dd_to=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://antiekenzilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gembercouvert-5.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/gembercouvert/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/gembercouvert/" rel="nofollow">http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/gembercouvert/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://antiekenzilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/antieke-zilveren-longdrinklepel-cocktaillepel-sorbetlepel-ijslepel-koffielepel-theelepel-johannes-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-10367-5.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/3-longdrinklepels/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/3-longdrinklepels/" rel="nofollow">http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/3-longdrinklepels/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think the mark could be for his slightly dodgy brother Jan Schijfsma.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shifty:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /> A very good silversmith as well, but he had a reputation for faking assay marks, not all that unusual at the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Jan Schijfsma:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2017/11/15/9/5/1/95171e5a-04dd-467b-b333-a2e23c2dd5ec.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.catawiki.nl/l/14986209-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1863" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.catawiki.nl/l/14986209-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1863" rel="nofollow">https://www.catawiki.nl/l/14986209-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1863</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2017/12/6/1/2/a/12abe1be-03ae-4517-a677-a4df6411160a.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.catawiki.nl/l/15435573-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1868" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.catawiki.nl/l/15435573-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1868" rel="nofollow">https://www.catawiki.nl/l/15435573-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1868</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This is how Jan Schijfsma got his reputation, the central mark in the row below is for Jan, the others are fake marks for Rotterdam and a Rotterdam maker:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://blog.zilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/93-2-600x150.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://keuren.zilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/93-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://blog.zilver.nl/echt-zilver-met-imitatiekeuren/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://blog.zilver.nl/echt-zilver-met-imitatiekeuren/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.zilver.nl/echt-zilver-met-imitatiekeuren/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Inh, please don't worry that your spoon could be by Jan, he was a good silversmith, and it says in the blog that faking wasn't unusual practice at the time. It is still Frisian silver, a bonus for collectors of Dutch silver.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 2483736, member: 2844"]I would say it looks like a mark for one of the Schijfsma family, so Friesland as well. It could be Johannes, but his S, and the mark in general, is more defined, and there is no space between the top of the J and the top of the cartouche. A few examples: [IMG]http://www.gzu-online.com/thumb.php?gen=ade178e7aa5da26ce033fccb9dd551da&img=c3JjSW1nPWtldXJ0ZWtlbnMvMTI1OTQyMjAxNl9yZXN4LmpwZyZ0eXBlPW9yaWdpbmFsSW1hZ2UmaW1nSGVhZGVyPXRydWUmZ3JheXNjYWxlPXRydWU=[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.gzu-online.com/thumb.php?gen=ade178e7aa5da26ce033fccb9dd551da&img=c3JjSW1nPWtldXJ0ZWtlbnMvMTM2MDQwNjU1OF9yZXN4LkpQRyZ0eXBlPW9yaWdpbmFsSW1hZ2UmaW1nSGVhZGVyPXRydWUmZ3JheXNjYWxlPXRydWU=[/IMG] [URL]http://www.gzu-online.com/index2.php?page=hallmarks&p=6&land=1&stad=&jl=&keyword=schijfsma&dd_from=1885&dd_to=[/URL] [IMG]http://antiekenzilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gembercouvert-5.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/gembercouvert/[/URL] [IMG]http://antiekenzilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/antieke-zilveren-longdrinklepel-cocktaillepel-sorbetlepel-ijslepel-koffielepel-theelepel-johannes-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-10367-5.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://antiekenzilver.nl/winkel/zilver/3-longdrinklepels/[/URL] I think the mark could be for his slightly dodgy brother Jan Schijfsma.:shifty:;) A very good silversmith as well, but he had a reputation for faking assay marks, not all that unusual at the time. Jan Schijfsma: [IMG]https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2017/11/15/9/5/1/95171e5a-04dd-467b-b333-a2e23c2dd5ec.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.catawiki.nl/l/14986209-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1863[/URL] [IMG]https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2017/12/6/1/2/a/12abe1be-03ae-4517-a677-a4df6411160a.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.catawiki.nl/l/15435573-fries-zilveren-lodereindoosje-jan-schijfsma-woudsend-sneek-1868[/URL] This is how Jan Schijfsma got his reputation, the central mark in the row below is for Jan, the others are fake marks for Rotterdam and a Rotterdam maker: [IMG]https://blog.zilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/93-2-600x150.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://keuren.zilver.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/93-1.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://blog.zilver.nl/echt-zilver-met-imitatiekeuren/[/URL] Inh, please don't worry that your spoon could be by Jan, he was a good silversmith, and it says in the blog that faking wasn't unusual practice at the time. It is still Frisian silver, a bonus for collectors of Dutch silver.:happy:[/QUOTE]
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