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<p>[QUOTE="Nathan Lindop, post: 342769, member: 5285"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie76" alt=":pompous:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I purchased this a while ago for the princely sum of £18, I was well prepared for much more of a fight but I was hugely surprised. It wasnt identified as Derby or as Cupid and Psyche but was identified as 18th Century. It has damage, the arm of Cupid is missing and his fingers are also damaged, the base also has some odd finger sized imprints as well as some firing cracks to the base.</p><p><br /></p><p>The figure has the giveaway triad of patchmarks characteristic of 18th Century Derby Porcelain production. I have found multiple references and examples of this figure which I will link below which if you need further info on the figure should help.</p><p><br /></p><p>BUT! : I cannot find anything on this figure from the Derby factory. The figure number on the base is 210, there is also a number 17 next to it. I have cross referenced with my books on Derby Porcelain and have found that the records on Derby have a gap when it comes to 210. I contacted the Derby Collectors Guild and the response was that it is most likely a missing derby piece, brilliant for my small selective Derby collection <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":snaphappy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]115563[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115564[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115565[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115567[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115568[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115569[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115570[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115571[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115572[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115573[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This link to a Sevres example from the V&A references the original figure this example is based on. Here is the link and the quote :</p><p>“date uncertain; Copied from an original marble group in the Museo Capitolino, Rome, Roman work of the 2nd C AD, after an earlier lost Greek original, discovered in 1749; the group was in Paris from 1797 to 1816. See H. Stuart Jones, Catalogue of Ancient Sculpture in Municipal Collection of Rome -- Museo Capitolino, 1912, pl. 12, p. 185, no. 3. The antique original has no wings”</p><p><a href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O99045/cupid-and-psyche-figure-group-sevres-porcelain-factory/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O99045/cupid-and-psyche-figure-group-sevres-porcelain-factory/" rel="nofollow">http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O99045/cupid-and-psyche-figure-group-sevres-porcelain-factory/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>An ivory statuette located also in the V&A :</p><p><a href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O89653/cupid-and-psyche-statuette-di-campertogno-marchino/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O89653/cupid-and-psyche-statuette-di-campertogno-marchino/" rel="nofollow">http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O89653/cupid-and-psyche-statuette-di-campertogno-marchino/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>A very interesting history of Cupid & Psyche’s representation in pottery/clay :</p><p><a href="http://janestreetclayworks.com/2013/02/12/cupid-and-psyche-in-clay-2/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://janestreetclayworks.com/2013/02/12/cupid-and-psyche-in-clay-2/" rel="nofollow">http://janestreetclayworks.com/2013/02/12/cupid-and-psyche-in-clay-2/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>1st Century AD Roman example. Sold for under $500,000 . I wish...</p><p><a href="https://www.christies.com/features/Romantic-Valentines-day-lots-from-the-Christies-archive-8075-1.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.christies.com/features/Romantic-Valentines-day-lots-from-the-Christies-archive-8075-1.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.christies.com/features/Romantic-Valentines-day-lots-from-the-Christies-archive-8075-1.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>19th Century Meissen example sold for £300</p><p><a href="https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Lot/?sale=PG080311&lot=153&id=192099" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Lot/?sale=PG080311&lot=153&id=192099" rel="nofollow">https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Lot/?sale=PG080311&lot=153&id=192099</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Nathan Lindop, post: 342769, member: 5285"]:pompous: I purchased this a while ago for the princely sum of £18, I was well prepared for much more of a fight but I was hugely surprised. It wasnt identified as Derby or as Cupid and Psyche but was identified as 18th Century. It has damage, the arm of Cupid is missing and his fingers are also damaged, the base also has some odd finger sized imprints as well as some firing cracks to the base. The figure has the giveaway triad of patchmarks characteristic of 18th Century Derby Porcelain production. I have found multiple references and examples of this figure which I will link below which if you need further info on the figure should help. BUT! : I cannot find anything on this figure from the Derby factory. The figure number on the base is 210, there is also a number 17 next to it. I have cross referenced with my books on Derby Porcelain and have found that the records on Derby have a gap when it comes to 210. I contacted the Derby Collectors Guild and the response was that it is most likely a missing derby piece, brilliant for my small selective Derby collection :snaphappy: [ATTACH=full]115563[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115564[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115565[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115567[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115568[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115569[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115570[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115571[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115572[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]115573[/ATTACH] This link to a Sevres example from the V&A references the original figure this example is based on. Here is the link and the quote : “date uncertain; Copied from an original marble group in the Museo Capitolino, Rome, Roman work of the 2nd C AD, after an earlier lost Greek original, discovered in 1749; the group was in Paris from 1797 to 1816. See H. Stuart Jones, Catalogue of Ancient Sculpture in Municipal Collection of Rome -- Museo Capitolino, 1912, pl. 12, p. 185, no. 3. The antique original has no wings” [URL]http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O99045/cupid-and-psyche-figure-group-sevres-porcelain-factory/[/URL] An ivory statuette located also in the V&A : [URL]http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O89653/cupid-and-psyche-statuette-di-campertogno-marchino/[/URL] A very interesting history of Cupid & Psyche’s representation in pottery/clay : [URL]http://janestreetclayworks.com/2013/02/12/cupid-and-psyche-in-clay-2/[/URL] 1st Century AD Roman example. Sold for under $500,000 . I wish... [URL]https://www.christies.com/features/Romantic-Valentines-day-lots-from-the-Christies-archive-8075-1.aspx[/URL] 19th Century Meissen example sold for £300 [URL]https://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/Lot/?sale=PG080311&lot=153&id=192099[/URL][/QUOTE]
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