Featured Tavern Table

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Illielee, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Where did you pull that one from James, your uncles barn ? :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  2. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    NO! this past Jan at the American sales in NYC, I absolutely positively STOLE that table! and, am happy as larry about it! :cigar:
    It was at the Vogel sale, fabulous early american furniture collection, a dozen or more 100k pieces, total collection value was something like 5 million.
    All the snobs at that sale were looking at the BIG $$ pieces and because this table had a replaced top, they all turned their noses up at it.
    FABULOUS provenance on this table, i was lucky to get it. Design wise it's the period just before william & mary, i think in england Charles II? Here it's just called "Pilgrim Century" as we frown on the king stuff. :hilarious:
    http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions...nne-h-frederick-vogel-iii-n10003/lot.822.html
     
  3. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Catalogue calls it W&M but that is totally wrong, table maybe a lot of things but william & mary it ain't, that's for sure!
     
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  4. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I was ribbing you,

    Remember Phil and his Carolean Chairs, found in his uncles barn :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  5. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    UGH, vaguely, that's nothing! There is a lady presently in forum that INSISTS! her leather top table does not have a leather top!
     
  6. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Easy to say if leather by.... tasting it:p:joyful::hilarious:
     
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  7. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    LOL, YEP, should have known THAT WAS COMIN! TASTE TEST!:p
     
  8. Illielee

    Illielee Well-Known Member

    [​IMG] Jelly cupboard, I guess, coming up soon. Anything to see here? Panels look local, s Georgia.
     
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  9. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Agrees on Jelly cupboard, 19th century, looks like pine from here.
     
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  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    @Illielee you should post your stuff post in furniture forum, you would get more replies, furniture kinda gets lost in here. I NEVER come here unless someone tags me for example.
     
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  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    And, the table i stole from the snobs is in fact a "Charles II" designed table and NOT william & mary. A main design feature of Charles is "Bobbin" turned legs/stretchers, william & mary is a whole "other" thing......dutch influenced for one thing, cyma curves, "trumpet" turned legs for another, X stretchers, just sayin........
    A couple pics i lifted from Marhamchurch, 1 W&M, the others charles II
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  12. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Sotheby's in NYC had no clue about my table, style was wrong, date was wrong, the only thing they did manage to get right was "rare", it is rare for American furniture for sure, very few of those tables survive over here. I am happy to have it, I SCORED!:p
     
  13. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Wonderful collection!
     
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  14. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Getting back to "Tavern" tables, this mid 18th century so called PA table could just as easily be VA. It was last sold at Northeast Auctions in 2004.
    The important point here is, are these feet original to this table? are they turned as one piece with the leg? OR are they added to bottom of leg?
    Waiting on answers to my inquiry about them but in enlarging pic, I'd guess they are one piece and were turned with the legs which means, original to the table.
    I am a player if feet are original and the sale number is reasonable, keeping my powder dry $$ wise as Americana Week is right around the corner (Jan.) and, it's the most important week of the year early american furniture wise.
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    feet6.jpg
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That's what it looks like to me.
    It gives the table a special look I think.
     
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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  18. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I am thinking this table is VA, it's valuable and, it's gonna be like that Tea table a couple months back, HIDEOUSLY expensive.
    One of the downsides of the internet antique wise is, very little falls thru the cracks these days as many more eyes are looking than before the internet age.
     
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  19. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Take a look at escutcheon on this table which i have enlarged & lightened.
    It's english made, early 18th century and Dutch inspired
    escut resiz lightened.jpg
    At Optimum Brass in Devon UK (reproductions), not exact matches but pretty dang close
    "This large engraved escutcheon is from an original coming from the same early 18th century chest (of Anglo-Dutch origin)"
    A33-engraved-escutcheonRE.png

    A35-large-brass-engraved-escutcheonRE.png
     
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  20. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I think I am gonna go see this table personally :happy::wideyed::watching:
     
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