Featured WW1 Coin Dogtag

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by Jannie Groenewald, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. Jannie Groenewald

    Jannie Groenewald Active Member

    Screenshot_20220410-210101_Instagram.jpg Screenshot_20220410-210116_Instagram.jpg Good evening
    Here is something from my collection, from the Battle of Amien that took place on 8-11 August 1918. I believe some things are worth remembering...
    I bought this 1908 British halfpenny in Cape Town years back. Reason I got it is because it had numbers and dates stamped onto it. I was first told that it is almost impossible to get any meaning from "random numbers" on coins as it is not easy to put it into any context.
    After some research I found that they are not that random at all. These are regiment numbers of two Canadian brothers from WW1. 105 was the 105th Overseas Battalion. 712234 belonged to the younger brother Robert Walter Warren ( born 13/03/1897) and the other to his older brother, Wellington Pope Warren (born 22/03/1896). They were from Prince Edward Island and inlisted in 1915 and 1916.
    Wellington died on the 8 of August 1918, the first day of the Battle of Amiens. He is buried in the Toronto cemetery in Demuin, France.
    The younger brother also died in combat on the 24th and was laid to rest in the Hillside Cemetery near Somme, France.
    It still a mystery why their numbers ended up on this coin and how it found its way into a coin scratch patch in Cape Town.
    Groete
    Jannie
     
  2. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

    Amazing. The amount of information you were able to find just knocks my socks off.
    The story of these brothers is heartbreaking. I mourn for the lives they never lead... the families they never raised.
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's sad. My guess would be a friend or family member had it done to remember the brothers. Coinage was available but metals may have been restricted due to war rationing.
     
  4. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't expect that much wear on that date by then.

    No hole as a dog tag would have.

    I think likely done later.
     
  5. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    It's not wear - it's the flattening from being counter punched.
    Around the edges are still pretty detailed.
     
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  6. Jannie Groenewald

    Jannie Groenewald Active Member

    Files I got for Wellington
     

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  7. Jannie Groenewald

    Jannie Groenewald Active Member

    Roberts file
    Here one can see the battalion number 105.
    So we even sort of know how the 2 bothers looked like when they went to war.
     

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  8. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    could it have been placed at the gravesite?
     
  10. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Don't think so, its not weathered although it does not work and I can't get the back off.
    The guys house I got it from was a hoarder and an amatuer watch repairer.
    I found 8 non repaired silver pocket watches along with this one.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Ahhhh, the things we plan to get around to.......and never do !;):(:(
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That explains how it got into the house, but not how it got to the UK. On the lady's wrist presumably. I'd say likely she carried it into the UK herself and maybe she and the watch both stayed there.
     
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