Who is this Guy...

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by 'Nuff_Said, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    ...clutching a chalice and seated in a winged chariot?

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    Thanks for your time and help.
     
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  2. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I find that if you visualise anyone on throne as actually being on a commode it kinda brings them down to earth.

    That's Jahweh on his field battle potty.
     
  4. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Did the dudes really have that freaky of beards back then?
     
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  5. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys for your replies and link.

    And Terry, as far as the beards, it appears so.
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Think Assyrian cornrows.

    You could afford the time to have it done and some servant to do it.

    It was the flash suit or heavy gold watch of the day.
     
  7. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    His manservant appears to have a broken tail...


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  8. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    I don't know, I wasn't there. I may be old, but at this moment not that old! Like af, when I see these types of beards depicted, I also think of Assyrians, Babylonians, Nebuchadnezzar (sp?), the Mesopotamia corner of the world dudes.

    --- Susan
     
  9. Tauriel

    Tauriel Active Member

    You might want to look at the Anunnaki....
     
  10. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

  11. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    This is the greek god Dionysos holding a Kantharos, his companion is a Satyr.
    Mat
     
  12. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    Thank you!

    Those figures (Dionysos, Satyr and a couple others) are carved into a bronze vessel in almost this same exact form:


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  13. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    that sounds interesting, do you have a picture of the whole item? Dionysos is shown rarely on a winged chariot, but there exist images with this iconography. The vessel you show is called lebes gamikos and played o role in ancient Greek weddings. However I never saw one in bronze...
    Mat
     
  14. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member


    Thank you.

    The images below aren't of the best quality, but you can pretty much get an idea of what's there. The figures and floral designs are hand-rendered in high & low relief, you can see the tool marks and cross hatching in the second image (reminds me a bit of the fine Japanese metalwork of the 19th C. and earlier).

    The condition isn't the best (couple pieces missing, base busted and drilled, probably once used as a lighting source), but overall it's in pretty good shape for its age (probably 19th C.?). Probably made after a bookplate image or piece held in some museum collection.

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  15. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    Oh! And welcome to the board.

    I see you have some interest in Asian ceramics?

    Your thoughts on this café-au-lait glazed piece with sepia decorated landscape interior?

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  16. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I do not really know what to think about that. And also I am far from calling myself an expert! ;) However, considering the shape this could be a censer? Is the sepia landsape done under the glaze (on the photos it looks like that)? I am not sure if this is café-au-lait, which is usually a lighter brown.
     
  17. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    The same here (no expert). I too was thinking large porcelain censer or brush washer. The sepia and greyish-green celadon wash are underglazed within the interior. A café-au-lait glaze can be light, medium or dark brown as seen in this example here: http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...lait-glazed-bowl-guangxu-5389497-details.aspx
     
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