Which Reinhold painted this painting?

This landscape is from mid to late 19th century. It is signed "Reinhold," but which Reinhold painted it? There were several prominent painter artisans named Reinhold in 19th century Germany, such as Bernhard Reinhold, Franz Reinhold, Friedrich Philipp Reinhold, Henrich Reinhold and Karl Reinhold. The problem is, that all these Reinholds seemed to sign the word "Reinhold" with the same basic cursive style and shape of lettering. There is no first initial in this painting. It is simply signed "Reinhold."

 

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We need more than this. We need a photograph of the painting including the frame from both the front and back. We also need an in-focus close-up photograph of the signature. If there are any labels, stickers or handwritten notations, we need a close-up photograph of those too. And please tell us in what part of the world you found the painting and what you were told about it.

Debora

 

Yours may well be a copy or an "inspired by."

Debora

 

Also, please tell us why you ascribe a "mid to late 19th century" date to your painting. I should add that an all caps signature in red paint is often the sign of a decorative painting.

Debora

 

another example from same artist

 

a further example

 

back of first painting. consists of a beveled wood panel. no frame. landscapes were purchased as a lot of three from a German art dealer via ebay, who said his father originally purchased the paintings.

 

up close signature

 

another up close signature

 

another signature

 

I suspect they're all copies of other works. According to the internet: 'View of Lake Würmsee near Stahremberg in Bavaria'. Maximilian Johann Georg von Dillis. c.1792. Issued as an etching.

Debora

 

Wow, this is crazy! And I was thinking all the time that this Reinhold guy was a genius, a kind of natural-born photographer as well as painter. How did you dig up this similar engraving? Can you find "sources" for the other two paintings?

One random question: is the perspective of the painting wrong? The people walking are almost as tall as the houses in the background. Are the houses "far enough" away to be represented as being almost as tall as the people perspective-wise?

 

as long as you enjoy displaying this fine work of art in your home for all your friends and family to appreciate , ... who cares which Reinhold signed it ..!

 

I used Google Images to find similars. It's a valuable tool for collectors in any category.

It is doubtful that the artist was a Reinhold. As above, yours are decorative paintings (which don't appear to be by the same hand, by way) and were likely signed with that name because it was well-known and respected in German art. This signature even appears to have been added later as it's (quickly and clumsily) overpainted.



The figures may well have been added to the Lake Würmsee etching because tastes in paintings had moved on and their addition made the work more desirable to potential buyers. It's a quickly done, simplistic copy and the perspective was changed in the doing; that's probably what your eye is catching. The viewpoint is the same but the painter wasn't able to capture the painting's depth -- look how the landscape recedes far, far into the background in the original -- so the scene is telescoped which gives you the sense that the figures are slightly oversized and coming right at you.

This photograph doesn't help me understand how one of the paintings is mounted but, even so, it's not what I'd expect to see backing a period work. (And please, in the future, don't post a photograph without its correct orientation.)



Debora

 

what about this other painting, also signed reinhold? Is this an original, or a copy of a pre-existing theme or engraving?

 

Genre painting. A tavern scene. Given this, I'd think it's a copy. And, to state the obvious, it doesn't date to the 1600s.

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Debora

 

Ah, here you go. 'The Fortune Teller' by Alfons Spring according to the internet.

Debora

 

I think my remake is better than the original, assuming that the actual originator was Alfons spring. The other copy you showed is horrible. Not sure why it would be called the "Fortune Teller." The painting depicts a gambling scene where the dealer reveals a card that makes the three others lose a lot of money. The slanted bird cage signifies the chaos of gambling, the religious icons signify the immorality of gambling. like an allegory.

So i guess back then they mass copied others' artworks with misleading attributions, to sell them for people to decorate their bathrooms, the way Bed Bath and Beyond might sell a made-in-china oil painting for cheap. Fortunately I only paid about $100 per painting, "ohne rahmen." But they are very high quality paintings with a fine esthetic effect, even though they are copies or pseudo-copies. good esthetic feel or eye candy. But attribution to a specific "Reinhold" is clearly a misattribution, as your brilliant sleuthing shows.