What is this weird wear on bronze?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by bluemoon, Oct 26, 2016.

  1. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I'm thinking about bidding on two 18th century bronze candlesticks online. I just can't figure out what this weird wear and tear on the surface is: it looks as if a layer of bronze what flaked off or something. Aren't 18th century candlesticks usually solid bronze? So what do you think it is?

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  2. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Probably lacquered and this is where the lacquer has flaked off and allowed the patina to form on the bare metal.
     
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Would 18th century candlesticks be lacquered?
    Just asking as I don't know.
     
  4. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice


    They could have been lacquered at any point in their existence. My mother had a pair of silver plated andirons that she sent out to be lacquered almost a decade after they were plated.
     
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  5. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

     
  6. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Update: There are so far eight bidders for the candlesticks and one (apart from myself) seems very keen on getting them. These candlesticks are my favourite item in a long time and I know if I don't win the auction I'm going to be bitter about it for the rest of my life or until I find and buy a pair of better candlesticks, which may take years.
     
  7. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

    You're sure that there not gold plated candle sticks on bronze ? Look t at the picture and enlarged it and the layer is not lacquer and to thick . Gold plated from that age is possible and gives you the reason that more people are interested in it . And the colour is right for gold plated also
     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    there's an idea...
     
  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I'd run a mile from anything that looked like that. Gold plating was not possible in the 18th C. No electricity. The nearest thing was mecury gilding which does not deteriorate like that.
     
  10. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    The auction house is quite big, established and slightly higher-end with experts specialising on several different areas so I usually just assume their valuations are correct. Their listings often specifically point out when an item is gilded, etc. This one hasn't been.
    The item description however does state there are "repairs" whatever that means.
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    big houses make big mistakes...sometimes..
     
  12. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Some of y'all are so doubtful.
     
  13. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    They have a return-policy though.
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    No....just experience from what I've seen & heard .
     
  15. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    The bidding ends in a few minutes.
    I'm not going to bid because I don't need another question-rising item with unclear details. I also don't need a project.
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    a wise choice....
     
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