Unglazed White Pottery Ewer

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by kardinalisimo, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Ay idea of country of origin? Old or recent and decorative?
    Thanks
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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Recent, decorative, and not cheap if you buy them for the garden. Which is what I'd have done.
     
  3. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    Do you have the same?
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Similar ones - and I see them in garden centres here quite a bit, too. I like them best when they get weathered and mossy.
     
  5. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    According to this blog post at (Google translation) Old tools and Folk Art origin would be:
    Agost , Valencian region, province of Alicante, Spain.
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    http://vieux-outils-art-populaire.blogspot.com/2013/04/gargoulette-cantir-botijo.html

    The shape would be called cantir -(catalan or spanish language); gargoulette (french); botijo (spanish). In English we'd call it a harvest jug or field jug.

    CANTIR Search results

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=CANTIR&title=Special:Search&go=Go&uselang=en

    CANTIR
    Summary
    English: pottery pitcher, water vessel from Catalonia, Spain
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cantir_bisbal.JPG

    Catalan language
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language
    Catalan is a Romance language named for its origins in Catalonia, in what is
    northeastern Spain and adjoining parts of France.
    It is the national and only
    official language of Andorra,[5] and a co-official language of the Spanish
    autonomous communities of Catalonia, the Balearic Islands, and the Valencian
    Community (where the language is known as Valencian, and there exist regional
    standards). It also has semi-official status in the city of Alghero on the Italian island
    of Sardinia. It is also spoken with no official recognition in parts of the Spanish
    autonomous communities of Aragon (La Franja) and Murcia (Carche), and in the
    historic French region of Roussillon/Northern Catalonia, roughly equivalent to the
    department of Pyrénées-Orientales.[6]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language

    I have more links, but don't have time to put them up right now. This should be a good start for you I hope.
    Be back later.
     
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  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I should have known that shape name, I speak some Catalan. It's closer to French than Castellano Spanish, and supposedly has its origins in the Latin of Roman foot soldiers. Castellano purportedly comes from the Latin of officers. Catalan is spoken by something like ten mllion people from memory.

    Those who live on the Balearics get very antsy if what they speak is referred to as Catalan. It has some difference and is properly called Mallorquin. There's also some linguistic influence on Sicily: the Catalan empire ruled there, as well as Sardinia, and you get cultural shares such as gegant figures.

    I'm fascinated by language. Langue D'oc also shares much with Catalan. Modern French comes from Langue d'Or. Same differential roots as the Catalan/Castellano thing.
     
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  7. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks, that was very useful. I just have to figure if it has some age or it was recently made. I see Mexico also makes this but they are usually glazed and decorated.
     
  8. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Well, with the white clay and the shape of both spouts and the ring handle, I'm leaning towards the Spain attribution, but I'm not supremely knowledgeable, LOL! Your jug is a learning experience for me too.
    I found a pretty painted one with a visible mold mark like yours has on line:

    Sujet: Bric à Brac de Janine Janine Laval
    cruche "gargoulette" (WITH MOLD MARK)
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    http://desmots-despages.forumculture.net/t1579-bric-a-brac-de-janine

    This glazed one is labelled as French, (so Northern Catalonian region I think):
    French Pottery Gargoulette from Provence
    Price: $200.00
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    http://www.antiques.com/classified/...ers/French-Pottery-Gargoulette-from-Provence#

    This one was labelled as American, but has the same handle and spout shapes as yours:
    November 2012 M.A.D. Gallery Pages
    Redware, Harvest Jug First Half 19th Century
    Used in the fields to hydrate workers - Ht: 13"
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    http://www.aaawt.com/html/mad_ads/nov_12/item/15.html

    Here is a white one being sold new:
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    http://www.relaxtotdivani.com/es/menu-productos/cantir.aspx

    Translation from Catalan to English:
    You see : The inventors of the pitcher a few years ago invented a refrigerator system without knowing anything about thermodynamics or Gay - Lussac:

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    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ntir-de-gay-lussac/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Another one from eBay that also explains the thermodynamics:
    JUG, ORIGINAL BOTIJO FROM SPAIN
     
  9. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the links. I am not sure if the glazed one is 19th C. From what I read in order to cool the water right the jug has to be unglazed(I see some old ones just with a small portion of the top glazed) and the one with a glaze are more like tourist souvenirs.
    I don't get the last ebay listing. I don't see a size and there are two pictures with two different jugs, one glazed, one not.
     
  10. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    The eBay seller is in Spain and the description seems to be a Google-ish translation, so I think that's why the text doesn't make complete sense.
    I noticed the pic of the redware jug, too. I'm just speculating that the seller has both available. I couldn't find size or capacity in that listing either.

    Which reminds me.... What is the size/capacity of this here jug of yours?

    I've been wondering about the size of that grape vine covered porcelain bisque dish you posted a while back too...heehee.
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    The jug is about 12" with the handle.
    The dish about 5 1/2" to the top of the finial. Still have not found origin and age.
     
  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Provence isn't Catalan. ;)
     
  13. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Isn't there a part of Spain called Catalonia that borders France? Guess I need to look at a map, LOL.
     
  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Ah, well now. Catalonia or Catalunya straddles Spain and France, incuding the Pyrenees and Andorra. Andorra is actually a sort of autonomous country. The Catalunya in Spain is an autonomous region with its own government which is currently fighting to be an independent nation. (Franco HATED them. Google history of Madrid and Barca football if you want interesting.)

    At one time, the Catalans had a quite extensive empire. Provence is a bit further east, still maritime and quite lovely.
     
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