Trench art vase identification

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  1. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Totally out of my element here...appreciate any help.

    Brass artillery shell vase with bullets. 4" tall with a 1 3/4" base.

    An etched posy on 2 sides.
    Stamped marks on base that i can read...
    10-16...I-PDRH....an Anchor stamp...partial 'N N' on top, and 'K C' near the anchor.

    hand engraved...M.15...with a date 2-17-1925. IMG_0871.JPG IMG_0873.JPG IMG_0874.JPG IMG_0875.JPG
     
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  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Not made in a trench

    It is a period WWI shell

    It was likely made in 1925

    The largest shell is Naval not artillery

    There was purportedly an organized effort to rehabilitate disabled vets by them making these

    Interest in them isn't what it once was
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's cool though. They filled in the primer hole to make a vase out of it. If they hadn't, I'd make a lamp out of it. My late dad did just that with some old shell casings.
     
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  4. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    terry...Thanks very much for the interesting info and history lesson!

    evelyb...I never would have thought of making a lamp out of it (or what a primer hole is!). Your Dad sounds like he was a creative man.
     
  5. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Interest in them isn't what it once was

    I still collect it as much as ever-don't have any posies yet. I like the way they bisected the .30 and .45 cartridges and the .30 bullets, that's not easy to do with ordinary tools. Largest case is from US Navy 1-pounder (37mm) heavy rapid-fire gun, but has been cut down in length. I don't know what the hand-scratched "M.1.5" means.
     
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  6. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Thanks, springfld, for all the id's!

    Is there a market specifically for disabled veteran's trench art?

    Since it's WWI, but created in 1925, what category would I list it in?
     
  7. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    what category would I list it in?

    Private auctions, just for springfld.arsenal

    haha, really dunno, I've always thought categories didn't mean much, people search using keywords, maybe someone else knows

     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Hahaha !!!
    Ya, I can see why !
    This puppy is very well done .
    From the precision it took to cut the bullets in half to the soldering , someone went to pains.....maybe not great pains.......but pains !

    Catagory , shmatagory.....key words will get it found no matter.
     
  9. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Let me know when, where listed-I may bid if it doesn't start too high.
     
  10. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Thank you all for the help! Your enthusiasm has made me look at militaria in a new light.

    springfld...this belongs to a buddy of mine...let me talk to him and I'll get back to you.

    "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

    ALBERT EINSTEIN
     
  11. trip98

    trip98 Well-Known Member

    I agree very well-done!
     
  12. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    My thoughtful wife bought this interesting piece for the company collection. Thanks to Cartoongirl for letting us know about it here, I haven't searched on Ebay for quite some time.

    When it got here and I looked it over closely, continuing to wonder about the poppy and the M.1.5, I'm thinking it all adds up to US Marine Corps. I think the M.1.5 means Marines, 1st. Regiment, 5th Battalion, which apparently did exist in Feb 1925.

    The USMC theme is further supported by typical infantry small arms ammo (.30 rifle and .45 pistol) that's bisected and applied to the exterior. The basic "vase" Hotchkiss one-pounder cartridge case would be more available aboard some Navy ships, perhaps by then used as a saluting gun, but there were "landing gun" carriages available for that weapon also, and the unit may have had them for amphibious operations. The poppy flower is kind of a WWI veteran's symbol, and the Marines who lost many in WWI would have used it. Perhaps the Marine who made this was a WWI vet?
     
  13. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    and those caissons go rolling along
    0206 marine 002.jpg
     
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  14. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    The

    "hi! hi! hee!"

    is my favorite part

    if one were to google the phrase I suspect it would show somewhat limited use
     
  15. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

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  16. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    That's because it stinks.
    :singing:
     
  17. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    My mother was in the Army. I learned all these WWII songs before I was 10. Now I'll have this one as an earworm for the rest of the day. Her version ended with "We're from Keesler, we're proud and we're strong."
     
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  18. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    phpnuA76hPM.jpg My maternal Granny was a WADC and VERY patriotic as were my two Uncles :)

    They also had a womens mounted unit.

    phpSy3zR7PM.jpg
     
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