Featured Swirl Mosaic? confetti? molten? glass bead necklace - please help ID

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  1. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Hi guys! Today I bought a cheep necklace that looks strange to me - it looks like Czech glass but I have quite a bit Czech necklaces (they are common here, especially those made after WWII) and these beads do not match any of them. The beads are kind of mosaic, confetti (not sure of the term, here we would call them "melange"), and look like been molten - have mould rims (not sure if I put it well, rims can be seen on the photos). No mark. If someone can ID the origin and age of the beads? Spring ring clasp.
    Thank you for your attention, any answer will be much appreciated!

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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Spatter glass rather than confetti. Very odd lines those.
     
  3. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Ownedbybear, much appreciated!
    Do I understand correctly that you haven't come across such glass pattern before?

    I found a vase with similar pattern, seller says it is Japanese from 1960s.
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/834204706/vintage-multicolor-spatter-splatter

    Know that it can be trusted but can mine also be Japanese?? Or some local BG attempt to mimic Murano glass? Although I have never come across BG glass beads, whatever had been sold was Czech.
     
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  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The type of pattern, yes, I've seen often. It's those mould lines which are so strange. I'm wondering if they're Indian given they're relatively primitively made. Not that all Indian beads are primitive, the lampwork ones, for example are lovely.
     
  5. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Ownedbybear, yes, the making is rather primitive. I did not know that in India they make this type of glass beads. But they make everything so why not this too...
     
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  6. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    My first thought with these is modern Chinese. I'm not sure what to call the beads. The beads sort of remind me of "End of Day" beads where they use left over glass and combine it for a nice result, but not sure that is the right descriptive term.

    Seeing a photo of the entire item laid flat, plus a clear photo of the clasp is often helpful if you want to ID the age and possible country of origin. I realize you were just asking what to call the beads, so maybe not needed. :)
     
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  7. tie.dye.cat

    tie.dye.cat Well-Known Member

    Agreed. Never seen beads quite like that.
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I was about to jump in with Japanese too. I have seen similar beads before, strung that way, AND with that seam and a hook marked Japan.
     
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  9. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for your valuable comments! Very helpful, appreciate it!

    Lucille, you spot it, they look exactly as assembled from shreds of glass of different colours. "End of Day" could suit it, I guess.
    Below is the photo of the whole piece, if needed more flat, I will do it tomorrow:
    Spatter glass necklace3.jpg
    Tomorrow at daylight I will make a close shot of the clasp only.

    Evelyb30, thanks a lot! Your experience is very welcome!

    Sorry, not rims but seams... My poor English...
     
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  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    ARG! End of day is a myth. ;)
     
  11. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Ownedbybear, thanks again! If I understand correctly, you say that there is no such thing as "End of Day" glass. Without being any expert, I searched this term and found quite a lot of descriptions using it. This tells me that it is accepted among a significant share of sellers and/or bloggers and there is kind of convention to use it. Like for example, centaurus is a myth (i.e. non-existent) but is used as a term and everyone knows what it is.
    IMO, I don't see a problem to use any accepted by a significant group term, as long as it is unique and does not overlap with the name of another item which can be confusing, indeed.
    Pardon me, what is ARG?
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    ARG is me screaming. ;)

    Yes, I know it gets used but it's still nonsense. There's no such thing as glass left over at the end of a day. One idiot seller probably coined it a while back and other idiots picked up on it.
     
  13. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    I see, Ownedbybear, you just want things to be factually right. I guess the term does not refer to actually left over glass but is a kind of allegory. Like the Iron Curtain, it is not factually a curtain and it is not made of iron but is an allegory describing the isolation between the East (Soviet block) and the West.
    But of course, everyone has the full right to reject and avoid using it.
    Thank you again for your kind help, very useful as usual!
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Then you get nasties like "rainbow moonstone"; the rock is labradorite, white variety. It is however a trade name for that particular feldspar, and as such serves a purpose. (name recognition and making life easier for those who can't spell.) End of day shows up in relation to bakelite jewelry; I have no idea if it's accurate then either. I suspect not.
     
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  15. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Don't forget to do this, @IvaPan !
     
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  16. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I am away from home till Sunday, will do it after coming back.
    Thanks for reminding me, Figtree3!
     
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  17. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    The clasp. To me it looks like it has been restrung and not very well.
    spater glass clasp.jpg
     
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  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Agreed. Older clasp though.
     
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  19. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Seconded. Someone didn't glue their knots but reused the old clasp.
     
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