Sterling...Plated....Filled...the difference !

Discussion in 'Silver' started by komokwa, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    .Good stuff to know.........

    silverfilled.jpg
     
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  2. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Is it the same for gold?
     
  3. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    That's rather overly simplistic and not a good thing to spread around
     
  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I've heard of gold-filled, but never silver-filled.
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Well then if you feel that way , don't just be negative ....correct it !!
    ( or get a mod to delete the whole thread.........)
     
  6. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Testy, testy...
     
  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Like Bakersgma, I've never encountered filled silver. Phil Silvers yes, but not filled silver. However, there maybe one to two things of which I am not yet aware. Of course there are a zillion variations on that original diagram, but I think the basic point is made.
     
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  8. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    When I hear silver filled it is usually a heavier desposit on wear areas, like the bottom of a spoon where it touches the table.
    greg
     
  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I have a couple of pieces of silver marked 'filled' but in the case of silver it means that the item is filled in the base (usually) with some substance to stabilise and strengthen it, commonly found in candlestick bases although I have a reproduction of a Donatello bronze plaque in silver where the backing is 'filled'.

    The nearest you will get in silver to the typical 'goldfilled', the metals fused and rolled, is in Old Sheffield Plate, produced in the early 19th C. before electroplating was invented. Not to be confused with the later use of Sheffield plate which often means only electroplated in Sheffield. You will not find old Sheffield plate, as silver bonded to copper after about 1840-1850.

    The silver to copper ratio of old Sheffield plate was similar to the continuing values for rolled gold, what you call 'goldfilled', but nowadays after a couple of hundred years the silver on OSP has usually worn very thin to nothing at all, leaving copper showing.

    The initial post is broadly speaking correct, except really only gold is offered this way now. The distinction between solid, filled and plated is correct.
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Why Yes....I was.....but I see the error in my ways.
    So I would like to apologize to Terry and anyone else whom I may have offended with my rude and uncalled for comments.

    I was more interested in the sterling make up and posted the pic without checking the source .
    I won't do that again either.

    Once again , I fell short of being a good community member & I'm sorry if my comments were hurtful , or overly stern to the point of insulting or harming in any way , any member on this site !

    Yours,
    Komokwa
     
  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    af, I've a modern silver Comyns owl which is marked as filled and also marked as silver. I think it's the same technique as the older Edwardian candlesticks, for example.
     
  12. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Electro formed is nothing like Sheffield plate
     
  13. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    An electrotype is indeed a different animal but I think the 'candlestick' reference by owned is to filled bases and interiors like knife handles, and other thin but hallmarkable wares, not OSP.
     
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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yup, spot on, af. Those candlesticks, knife handles and such that are filled with plaster, or whatever. People peel off the silver and scrap it. ;)
     
  15. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

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  16. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I don't know anything about silver or gold....
    but I do appreciate the politeness and openness of all the posters here!
     
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