Silver on copper neo classical plate

I think this is silver plate on copper. I have done some searching and there are a few results for Elkington However there don't seem to be any marks or a signature. It's about 20cm fat.

 

Pretty hilarious from a mythological point of view. Wondering if there's not a painting behind it. Still can't figure out which legs & feet seen below Athena/Minerva's robe go with whom. Aphrodite/Venus is behind her.

 

good weight to it ?

looks a nice quality from here

would think it would have some kind of mark if english

theres quite a few similar in tazza form, which french attributions

good piece i reckon

 

in relief ?

 

https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/80589391

 

That looks almost like something AI generated. Very odd symbolism, angel falling from heaven, instruments, odd fill-in pieces, very odd three feet, statue of David…

The details don’t match the one Charlie found. ( Look at the Mercury’s stave and odd ball on the right side of the bowl, for instance.)


Edit. Maybe the odd coppery ball on the right side of the plate, in the woman’s hand, is actually a mark. It seems to have a date in it? I can’t enlarge it enough to see.

 

It's a bit rude on closer inspection. There are two pairs of legs under the robe. Looking at the position of the big toes, the first two legs on the left belong to the male figure on the left. There is then a toe protruding from his left leg which is another left leg and the last leg is the right leg of the female.

 

Erm it's just a photo of a metal plate. Not sure where AI comes into it.

 

It's quite solid. I don't think it's solid silver but it polished just like it. It's quite a common scene by the looks of it. I've looked everywhere and can't see anything that resembles a mark.

 

Close up of ball on the right. Just a trick of the light I think..

 

I think the falling angel is a perspective thing, meant to be Nike/Victoria descending with a laurel wreath. Rather than David, think the headless sculpture is the Apollo Belvedere. At about 7 o'clock you've got the scallop shell Aphrodite rode in on. I can't make out what some of the other odds & ends are that are lying around. I see a boar's head near the man who is reading a totally anachronistic book. I think we are meant to see him as being in the present, perhaps reading classical mythology. There's a very modern viol at 4 o'clock.

Clustered behind him seems to be an assortment of Muses/allegorical figures. Euterpe with a flute; Urania with a globe & astronomical/navigational tool. (Can't figure out what the other globe-like thing in the background is.) The staff of Hermes/Mercury is in the hand of a woman, so I think it is the usual confusion of that staff, with its wings & 2 twined ribbons, & the staff of the physician Asklepios, with its single snake & no wings. I think she represents Medicine.

 

It's not rude at all. Got them sorted from closeup. Left to right are Athena's right foot, Athena's left foot, Aphrodite's left foot, Aphrodite's right foot. There is no man there.

 

You certainly know your greek mythology. Thanks for the references.

 

Sorry the figure on the left looked male to me which confused things a little. I was referring to the shenanigans next to the viol when I said it's a bit rude. Looks like he is getting very intimate with another character, or it might be a just the perspective.

 

If you mean Urania's posture, it is rather strange. I thought she looked like sitting on the viol, but now you mention... She seems caught half way to this:

 

The guy with the naked derriere. Maybe I have a dirty mind

 

Thanks for the closeups! AI has a way of adding extremities and digits to human hands so the three feet reminded me of that. Some parts look coppery in the photos so if that’s not a photo artefact, it’s silverplated copper.

 

I wouldn't upload edited photos to here and pass them off as real. Seems like a disingenuous thing to do.

 

The figure is female, the Muse Urania, as is the cameo, or the Personification of Astronomy, if you like.

 

Okay. Sorry to corrupt the subject matter.