Featured Silver goblets with ?Chinese? characters?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by bluumz, Sep 12, 2023.

  1. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Advertised locally as "silver color" and no history or other information. I find them intriguing... any thoughts as to age, quality, purpose, translation, etc? They'd be a 40 minute drive for me to get them but at $45 for the pair, is it worth it?
    Or are they cheap tourist tat?
    No photos of the bottoms were provided.
    Thanks!

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Ooooo ! That'd be a hard one ! Im cheap,so theres that,plus thats real effort to drive that far .That being said,that loving cup (?) especially intrigues me ! I cant decide if that yellowish tint is just the sun or plating worn off.
     
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  3. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    I'd take the bet! Not keen on the handles, but from the inside bottom view of the one on the left I see hand hammered work:cyclops: saying silver to me.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think you need @Kaiserpoo to translate some of it.:)
    Or you might buy items that could be awards for something mundane that people won't be interested in.:shame:
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    they do look like award trophies.....

    Chinese silver..... quite possible...
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    further research needed !!!!!!!

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  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Seller actually came down further in price so I’m on my way to get them and better photos are forthcoming.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    hurry up...........;)...:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  8. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    The taller one looks nice and thin on the top rim. Good luck!
     
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  9. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Yay ! Cant wait !
     
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  10. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Well, I don’t know if my photos are any better than the seller photos… It’s impossible to get photos of silver without my own reflection! :rolleyes:
    Seller had no history of the item, she said she was selling for a friend whose deceased mother had collected “Asian stuff“. I’ve got some photos of cup number one, the taller one that I am most interested in. Approximately 22 cm tall, I see no brassy areas showing through. (Unlike the smaller cup, which does have faint brassy areas showing through.)
    I’m happy with their decorative value, so whatever they end up being, or end up not being, is fine with me. :)
    I probably won’t be able to post photos of the smaller cup until tomorrow as I’ll be leaving for work soon. Thanks for any help!

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  11. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I’m really trying for some better photos…!

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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    who knew it came apart ??? :wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::wacky::wacky::wacky:
     
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  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    The craftmanship on that is amazing !
     
  14. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    this was google translate on the bottom half .It wouldnt let me do the top.Maybe a direct picture? Ying Ying Yin Tea Lin Rong Xun Pin ShanVersion Bengong Guiha expresses his love for youKing Cao Zhu of Wei, King Qian Yan of Zuo ZhangZhuang Zheng Jiang Zeng Quan Fulin Jin was angryZhang Zouwei Wei Ma Yin Wang Zhang ZhuZeng Shou Zhi made a fortune and Jin Ru went thereKim Changbok Rongmin Sen Yaogenhaosamegif
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ditto. Love the eagle (if that's what it is).
    And another mystery solved.:joyful:
     
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  16. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Crumbs, well done Johnny for having a go!
     
  17. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Thanks so much, Johnny! I am finding this so confusing. :confused:
    Here are some photos of the inscription along the top… I couldn’t get the front or the back all in one photo, so there are two photos of the front and two photos of the back. If anyone could help with this I’d appreciate it.
    Does anyone see a date anywhere? Any idea of the age of this? Thoughts on the possibility - or not - of it being silver? Silverplate?
    I can't find any hallmark...

    Front:

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    Back:

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    The best shot I could manage of the front shield without distortion by the reflection of my camera phone:

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  18. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    The best google translate shows...
    Bai Cui Mei Bao Mei Zhen Jia Shu Chu Congratulations Weng Blessings Wei Xu Chuan Chen Zhou Shu Min Jun Luo Gong Zhang Zheng Zhang Weng Wang Zheng Liu Ma Xiu Gui De Gui Xiu Gong Jian De Bao Ying Yin Rong Lin Rong Xun Sheng Shan Wei Wang Cao Zhu Zuo Zhang Qian Yan Zheng Wang Ruben Benben Gonggui Ha Lian Yun Lin's Zheng Jiang Zeng Quan Fulin Kuisheng Zhang Zou Zhu Wei Feng Yin Wang Zhang Zhu Zeng Shouzhi Fortune Jin Ru Ating Kuichang Furong Liangsen Yao Genxuan
    Zheng! Should
    gift
     
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  19. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    @MrNate
    Would appreciate your thoughts on this one. No brassy areas present, like on the other one. It is fairly lightweight for its size and "bends and stays".
     
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  20. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    @MrNate -- Maybe didn't see the tag before?
     
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