Featured Signature Help Please

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  1. Roger67

    Roger67 Well-Known Member

    IMG_2300.JPG IMG_2301.JPG IMG_2303.PNG IMG_2304.JPG I've had this painting for a long time and the more I look at it the better it gets. I was thinking it was a painting by Wessel Marais a South African painter but most of the paintings I see by him is signed with his first name. It is 36x23 and oil on canvas. And notice the M shape. What do you guys think does it belong to him or can you make out the name. Thanks everybody!!!!
     
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  2. opoe

    opoe Well-Known Member

    it clearly says "Marais"... after googling him, it could be his, at first glance...
     
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  3. Roger67

    Roger67 Well-Known Member

    Yes it looks like the same style to me too but it's the signature looks so different.
     
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  4. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Wessel Marais' work is entirely South African scenes, from what I see on Google images. This is very un-South Africa (maybe France?). Also, I think his style is much looser and his signature is very distinctive -- name spelled out in full and a line to either side. I don't think it's Wessel.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The figures look African to me. And some parts of South Africa look very European. You could easily think this is in Europe, also by Wessel Marais:
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  6. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Where on the painting is the signature? I clicked on the images, but they don't enlarge.
     
  7. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Beg to differ, but there is nowhere in South Africa that looks European. There is no part of South Africa's Cape, where Marais paints, that looks anything like the scene in this picture. His works are places I know from my childhood. Here, the church, the poppies ... it looks like a tobacco barn in the background -- romantic stuff, and nothing like any scene you will find probably in the whole of southern Africa. A church spire like that? a giant wooden barn? Nope.
     
  8. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    There are subtle differences in the palette. Also, his clouds are more what I'd call blocky or chunky, not wispy. It's still quite nice even if it isn't his.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    What about these?
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  10. Roger67

    Roger67 Well-Known Member

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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It does look like it, but as you say, different signature.
    The people in this one look of European descent, as far as I can tell from the blobs, whereas the people in yours look of African descent (again, going by the blobs).
     
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  12. Roger67

    Roger67 Well-Known Member

    Yes mine does look like African descent.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I was searching for white churches with spires in South Africa, they seem to be all over the place. Haven't seen one with a red spire yet, but with all that Dutch influence, who knows. There were red spires in Zimbabwe and Namibia.
    Did find this one in SA, in Cradock:
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    I am not saying yours is by Wessel Marais, nor that it is necessarily S. Africa, just that I wouldn't rule it out. There may also be some artistic license involved, but an African family in non-European dress in a European pastoral scene is highly unlikely.
     
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  14. Roger67

    Roger67 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I highly doubt it's a Wessel Marais too, haven't seen any of his paintings signed just Marais. We may never know... but I like it.
     
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  15. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

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  16. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I hadn't thought they looked African, and still don't -- more women and girls in long dresses and hats. The tall wooden barn, poppies in the foreground, trees and red roofs of the buildings, and the hills are very reminiscent of scenes around my brother's place in France. Marais is a name that originated in Normandy, apparently, and is not uncommon.

    I recognise all Wessel Marais' more typical Cape subjects, but know of no African women or girls who dressed like this.

    The architecture in your pictures, Any, is Cape Dutch, and the workers' cottages are common subjects of artists. However, I hadn't read your post saying some parts of SA look very European and am sorry if I caused offence.

    South African visitors agree this is not South Africa, but Wessel Marais might have painted anything he pleased.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They look very dark-skinned though, of a skin tone only found in people with African, Australian Aboriginal, and Papuan/Melanesian ancestry.

    Maybe Namibian dress?
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