SHEARS, Scissors: Maker and Age?

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  1. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    We bought these in auction. They are a decent size (9-1/2" x 3-1/2"). Stamped in the handle on one side is "AK", the other side I cannot read. Curiously, the exterior edges of the shears appear to be a secondary tool. The edges are nearly sharp, so they may have had a use as well.

    Any ideas on AK other than Alaska or assault rifle? Clues as to the other impression? And AGE....they are hand forged, and look a couple of hundred years old. Your thoughts? TIA!

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the handles are made similar to some gardening shears.
    & I have seen large pointy scissors used as fighting weapons.
     
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  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    They could be for leather work, use the outer edges to score a line, use the shears to cut along that line. They should be meaty enough to cut clothing leather if not for saddlery work.

    Rather than stamping out the two sides in one strike each side has been hand forged, therefore I suspect they are probably 100 years old or so. There is a wide fudge factor in this, this sort of tool changes little over a couple of centuries till we get to modern mass production.
     
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  4. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Not much help but the second mark looks like AK to me as well as the first.
     
  5. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    They are definitely hearty enough to cut leather. I like the scoring thought. :)
     
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  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    "Traditional Chinese" scissors,they have been made with the same design for the last 3 centuries.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Hard to find another like them.....they may have collectible appeal to tool folks !

    forged iron..1800's.....
     
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  8. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    So Holly Blue, what does traditional Chinese mean? They aren't Chinese because of the AK. What are you meaning by the phrase?
     
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  9. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Google it
     
  10. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    I did, thanks. These aren't Chinese and are much heftier than the replicas. I'll have to disagree although I can see where you're coming from. Thanks
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    after working in men's wear for 10 years, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that assessment .
    The bottom of at least one blade needs to have a flat surface to glide along the table while cutting.
     
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  14. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    My grandmother was a professional dressmaker for 40 years. They don't look like no clothing shears I've ever seen! And she had them made by one of the best companies in the world!
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Those still have that required flat outer edge..............

    here's the flat edge with angled handle you look for in a quality pair of heavy fabric shears..

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  17. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    That's the kind which my grandmother used for decades. I still have them in my room. Made in the USA, to boot! (In NJ, in case anybody's wondering).

    The sharp point is for piercing fabric, when cutting from the inside, out. The flat edge on the bottom is so that you can glide it smoothly along the cutting-table when slicing fabric, otherwise you'd have your scissors jiggling up and down all the time, throwing you off the line.
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    and the angle of the handle is so the shears can lay straight down on the table, making it easy to follow the cutting pattern.
     
  19. springfld.arsenal

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    I'm guessing the specialized tailors' shears were invented maybe early 19th c. OP's shears may date back to the 18th C. Or before. This museum in Rotterdam has the largest collection of antique scissors, some dating back to the Vikings. They'd be able to put a date on OP's shears but assigning a purpose for the style is tough because the first commercial product catalogs date from the 19th C.

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  20. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Except for the length of the blades, they almost look like a custom made pair of sheet metal shears.........

    educational comparison:
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