Featured Royal Worcester cup

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chinoiserie, Oct 2, 2023.

  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I picked this for a couple o quid and Google suggests it might be royal Worcester. I have found a few similar in shape by them. I wasn't aware that they produced things in the 19th C without marks though. Confused as ever.

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  2. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    It would be marked if it was Royal Worcester. This is, IMHO, a 19th c Staffordshire cup and saucer. It's nicely done and I wish I could remember when the ring handle was popular -- mid 19th c?
     
  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think that’s Coalport.
     
  4. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  5. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Worcester didn't use "Royal" before their name until the 1860s, prior to that is was simply Worcester and sometimes not marked.
    The ring handle was popular in the early 1800s.
    THIS site shows the photo below, in which the first cup is identified as Worcester and has a very similar shape to Chin's. And note that the ring is formed separately from the lower bit of the handle, again like Chin's.

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    Last edited: Oct 2, 2023
  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    The Worcester handle does seem more of a match. For one the coalport one has a nobble on top. I know Worcester things weren't always marked but I'm not sure at what point in time they started using the well known mark. Dr Wall period for example had no marks. Not sure if the ring was formed separately or if it is just emphasised as being separate by the decor?
     
  7. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    If you're asking about the handle on your cup, IMHO the ring definitely appears to be formed separately from it's support bit.
     
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  8. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    The ring handle was made by many factories. Coalport is a possibility as are several other Staffordshire factories. The 3 digit pattern number may be a clue. Interesting Worcester cup in Blummz's photo is an aesthetic/japonisme design, c 1870 and would likely be marked. Worcester as a factory changed owners a number of times, so there is Chamberlain's Worcester, Flight Barr and Barr, and Kerr and Binns before it was Royal Worcester in 1862, IIRC. 18th c. Worcester most often has a blue crescent mark, and Worcester also had a pseudo Chinese mark. After 1862, pretty much all Worcester is marked either with an impressed mark or printed mark. Grainger's Worcester is a different factory as is Locke and Co. :cat:
     
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