REAL? Candlestick with 18th C. construction

It has the vertical seem across the stem on both opposite sides. It has the bottom screw and neatly finished bottom.

But is it really from the 1700's?

Here's some information to start with (although it wasn't enough to decide): http://www.rarity4u.com/knowledge/a...lware/brass/77-how-to-date-brass-candlesticks



Some for comparison:

https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/431675-ljusstake-barock-1700-tal

https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/624145-ljusstake-massing-1700-tal

https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/821704-ljusstakar-6-st-massing-och-brons-1700-1800-tal

https://www.bukowskis.com/fi/lots/523372-ljusstake-massing-barock-1700-tal

 

I must add that somehow the bottom of the candlestick seems so new. Maybe it's still old but what comes to mind is that perhaps the stem is old and the other parts (at least the bottom) are replacements?

 

From what I can see of it it appears to be a modern machine cut thread. I think it is modern in an older style. What are the last two pictures?

 

Why would the upper part have been cast in two halves like 18th century ones?

The last two pictures are of that candle-wax removing thing that goes into the long hole in the side of the candlestick. Here's another picture of the threads:

 

The slit down the middle with the adjustable slide is called a stump-ejector.

When the candle's burned out, you unscrew the knob and force the little platform inside right up to the top and it shoots the stump of the old candle out. Saves you having to hack out the wax with a pocket-knife or something. I have a brass candlestick the same as this one.

I don't think this one is particularly old, though. It's of an old STYLE, but it looks to be of pretty modern manufacture. I have one made by the Skultuna Brass Foundry in Sweden. They've been making the same style since the mid-1600s, but mine was probably made only a few decades ago.

It's called a 'chamberstick'. The wide drip-pan is to catch the wax as you carry it around the house from room to room (or chamber to chamber, hence the name). The little screw-knob also doubles as the handle.

 

The stem of 18th century candlesticks was cast as two separate halves that were welded together. This candlestick has that seam. If it was a contemporary one, why would they bother making it this way?

Yes, it is.

Could you maybe then see if it has the same vertical seam on both sides that starts from the top and ends at the bottom of the "stem" aka the upper half of the candlestick? Part of it is visible in this picture: the lighter line.

 

I keep one of these on my desk in case of power-cuts, and for melting sealing-wax:



It's the chamberstick which the Skultuna brassworks still manufacture today. You can buy it from their website, I think. I suspect that mine was lathe spun. I don't see any seams or lines on it suggesting it was wax or sand-cast.

 

That one has a wider drip pan. And the lack of the seam doesn't make it too relevant when it comes to figuring out how old mine is.

 

In an effort to get to the truth , all answers here are welcomed as part of the whole.

 

True. I just meant that I don't think it's necessarily the same exact candlestick, or the same exact era.
My own opinion is that only the stem of the candlestick is original (possibly 18th century) and the rest of the parts are replacements, they just don't seem fully of the same quality. Also the scale is a bit unusual for an 18th century chamberstick, usually the lower part is even wider.