Featured Pottery I.D Needed Soup Tureen Dragons, Gargoyle, Griffin?

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  1. Letty

    Letty New Member

    IMG_9991.jpg IMG_9993.jpg IMG_9994.jpg IMG_9999.jpg I picked this up at the Goodwill store for it's beautiful coloring. No markings that I can detect. Can anyone assist? Thank You.
     
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Aug 21, 2019
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I was struck by the shade of blue before I got to your comment. Very unusual.
     
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  4. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    1A6DAFE7-5BF8-4953-9DB5-0108554A1297.jpeg This one is marked Italy, but that may not be helpful.
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Letty's (welcome, Letty) gargoyles look flat chested compared to your more siren-like figure. Love the blue, but modeling seems like a vague copy of the other.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    A question for the ether: is it usual for a piece that has conspicuous fine crazing on the outside not to show any in the interior?
     
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  7. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    When I saw that color, it reminded of something. I had a pair of shakers in that same exact color and they were made in Japan. But for the life of me, I can not remember who made them. Perhaps there was a paper label on the base that came off?
     
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  8. Bookahtoo

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  9. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I believe it is possible. Some items have multiple coats of glaze. I suppose it can happen where only the outside glaze is the one that crazes. Sometimes, too, we'll buy a vase with crazing on the outside but it looks okay on the inside. Then when we add water we find out that there is indeed crazing in the interior. The crazing was just too light for us to see it. A pottery expert may be able to explain it better or more scientifically.
    Don
     
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  10. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    Book, yes, I believe that is what I was thinking of. Thank you I was trying to remember.
     
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  11. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    It is the same color - I thought so too.
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I wondered whether the pigment used for the blue might have an effect on how the glaze held up. Also seem to recall other threads where the opinion on posted item was that crazing not due to passage of time & evidence of something trying to look older than it really is.

    Just took a look at an inherited piece of McCoy that I know is at least 80 years old to see how it is aging. Interior more spider webby than exterior, although hard to compare as it is Cusack's corn pattern, which obscures appearance of surface; bottom is similar color & has crazed similarly; inside of lid is closer to white & has not crazed at all. So yes, Bronwen, crazing may not be evenly distributed.

    Still suspicious of OP's piece.
     
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  14. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    The white one has a PV=Peasant Village mark. I don't think it would be worth faking.
     
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  15. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I remember this. Looking again, think the hybrid creature is designer's fancy. Offhand can only think of a few hybrids from classical Greek/Roman mythology that are part woman: harpies; sirens; sphinxes; Nereids. The gorgons, sort of. Any in other traditions?
     
  18. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    The Vibria: "The Catalans also distinguish a víbria or vibra(cognate with English viper and wyvern), a female dragon-like creature with two prominent breasts, two claws, two wings and an eagle's beak. Dracs, Víbries and other mythological figures used to participate in correfocs during popular celebrations. "
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_dragon

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  19. Letty

    Letty New Member

    Thanks for the welcome! I agree with you, I think this is a Japanese knock-off of the white Italian Pottery piece. On my piece the rib sections are indented and on the white piece the center space between the ribs is above the surface. I have not seen any Inarco pieces in person, but my feeling from the pictures is that the Inarco is more royal/Turq blue based than Teal which is how the original reads in person.
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Glazes behave differently, for one thing. Plus, the outside may have deliberate craquelure.
     
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