Porcelain cup and saucer question

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lavrentii, Mar 8, 2024.

  1. Lavrentii

    Lavrentii Active Member

    Hello community!

    My new find.
    Stunning cup and saucer in green.
    As for me - 18 century. But I am looking for advise and opinion about maker and date.

    So there is like two impressed crosses or flowers. I found two similar marks. But I'm not sure. I found some looks like this mark - Grossbreitenbach double trefoil early marks. But, it shows as ink mark.
    On cup there is a pattern number as well. 3/545
    Appreciate all opinions and thoughts.

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  2. Lavrentii

    Lavrentii Active Member

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  4. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Various makers produced items like this. The center gilt pattern can be key, but it's been years since I've studied this area - you could be looking at Coalport, Minton, Daniel, Alcock etc. Also it's mid 19th century, not 18th century date wise.
     
  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    My first thought was Coalport with that green.
     
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  6. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    I would've expected a mark if it was Coalport. When I can't name something like your set, I usually say with some nonchalance, "Staffordshire factory, mid-19th c.":D
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    A great deal of mid nineteenth and earlier Coalport isn’t marked. I’ve had a bit. Identified by clever people on Facebook through colour, shape, body, pattern numbers and such.
     
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  8. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I have seen examples of Coalport plates with that 'snowflake' pattern in the centre.
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think the cup shape is right, too.
     
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  10. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

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  11. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  12. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Yes, the OP's. My bad!
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Someone’s just posted a marked Coalport set on one of my Facebook groups with exactly that snowflake. Calling it batwing 2665.
     
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  14. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Ah, batwing -- another term that has slipped through the holey net that is my aging brain!;)
     
  15. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I found a couple of green batwing cups and saucers a few years ago. Different sort of shape however. I never did fathom what part of the set 'batwing' actually referred to. Now I see it

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225818375944
     
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