Point cut diamond ring

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by carly price, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. carly price

    carly price New Member

    Hi im looking for a bit of help/information on the point cut diamond. Ive inhereted a diamond ring which ive believe may be from around 1600c. My nan found this ring as a young girl, the band of the ring had broken through age so my nan has her wedding band put on but the head of the ring is the original. If any one knows anything about this type of ring/ year / worth it would be appreciated thankyou
     

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  2. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The photos are too blurry/out of focus to tell much of anything.Have the stones been tested?
     
  3. carly price

    carly price New Member

    Hiya i know sorry ill repost better ones tomorrow , no all i know is my mum took it to a jewlers who had a look at it and gave a rough estimate of what he thought it would worth apart from that im unsure
     
  4. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    It does look like an old european mine cut diamond .
     
  5. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    It looks nothing like an old European mine cut diamond.
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Carly, I'm guessing you're in the UK - my neck of the woods. The setting looks as though it might be as early as you think, but I can't see the stone well enough. Certainly, diamonds at that time were point or sometimes rose cut and that metal inset looks about right. Depending on where you are, I'd be taking it to a decent local museum to look at. The average jeweller will know the square root of naff all about really old jewels. If you're near London I know some places, and I also know some on the South Coast.

    The other people to contact are the Portable Antiquities Scheme. They deal with found objects in Britain. Although your grandmother found this long ago, they may still be interested and could certainly advise.

    Here: https://finds.org.uk/
     
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  7. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    The alteration probably negated any historic value it may have had
     
  8. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    My mistake,why dont you post an example so I may learn the difference?
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'm seeing a rose cut center stone; the rest aren't really visible. A point cut stone is a whole different thing. Rose cuts apparently go back that far or close to it; point cuts and table cuts are even earlier.
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very nice Carly, and welcome.
    The pictures are blurred, but it looks like the central stone is an Antwerp rose cut diamond. That cut was developed in the 16th century.
    Below is a picture with top and side views: Amsterdam rose on the left, Antwerp rose on the right.
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    Looking forward to more pictures of your ring.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Mine cut diamond, top and side view:

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  12. carly price

    carly price New Member

    Here are some better photos thank you for your replies im interested about the history about it like i said the band was changed as it broke im sure this would have lessened the value of the ring
     

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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The PAS will be interested regardless of the alteration. It's about context. And they love looking at stuff.

    The thing is still worth a few hundred pounds here, if it can be verified as to the age of the stones and setting. Unaltered, a fair few thousand.

    The Romans did table cut. I've seen Tudor rings with rose and table.

    Me, I'd keep and wear it.
     
  14. carly price

    carly price New Member

    Im not sure wether id sell it anyway just trying ti find out about it and what it could be worth all of this is really helpful thankyou so do u reckon os could be from around 16c
     
  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I don't see why not - it has all the characteristics.
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You're right, it does have all the characteristics of a 16th century ring.
    The cut on the central diamond looks like an Antwerp rose cut. It could have been cut in Antwerp and traded to England as a loose stone, probably with the other diamonds, and mounted in a ring there, or the ring could have been made in Antwerp or another part of the Low Countries, and made its way to England through trade or on a lucky person's finger.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  18. carly price

    carly price New Member

    Thankyou thats very interesting to read
     
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  19. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Looks like the main stone is a Amsterdam rose cut,surrounding stones macle diamonds.The stone at 9 o'clock looks like a more modern cut in the photo and stones set in silver.Hard to tell the time context and could have been made sometime in a 200 year period.
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It could be an Amsterdam rose, it is difficult to see how many facets there are. From the photographs it looks like the slightly less faceted Antwerp Rose to me.
    Diamond were often set in silver to reflect the light.
     
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