PHOTO POSTCARD OF SOLDIER

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  1. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    Hello can anyone give me a name for this ? general, I beieive it is Spanish American war, and was taken around Brownsville Texas, I also think his first name was Jim or James but can not for the life of me remember his last name, Any help appreciated Thank you
     

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  2. maryislgal

    maryislgal Well-Known Member

    Don't know his name but I did some of my early years living in brownsville. We used to go into the woods and dig up all kinds of stuff from the Spanish American war. Handcuffs, ammo, guns and cool stuff. it was amazing what you could find.
     
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  3. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Spring is on his way! LOL!!
     
  4. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Oh, dear. Our Spring -- not mother nature's.

    sry.
     
  5. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    James Franklin Wade?
    James Harrison Wilson?
    James Burbank?
    Just Googled a bit for Spanish-American War generals.
    Actually looks a bit like Pershing...
     
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  6. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    thanks will check these names out,
     
  7. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Really doubt the Spanish-American War had anything to do in the Brownsville, TX area. The SA war in was concentrated in Cuba with naval action in the Phillipines. The Brownsville area was in the midst of the action against Pancho Viila in which Pershing was the general. The Spanish-America War was in 1898 and the troubles along the Mexican Border troubles involving Pancho Viila was just before WWI from around 1915-1916. In this action John "Black Jack" Pershing led an expedition force down around Brownsville.

    FWIW, I don't think it is Pershing. His moustache and shape of head/face doesn't seem quite right for Pershing.

    --- Susan
     
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  8. springfld.arsenal

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    Hmmm dunno I took a quick incomplete look and William Gorgas was only one I happened to find with some resemblance. Think it would be a bit unlikely to find a doctor riding a horse in uniform however. He did serve in TX but when he was younger than in your picture. Can't see his uniform details well enuf to check for Medical Corps insignia, maybe someone wants to blow up (there I go again!) his collar area, change brightness etc to check that out. If he is Dr. Gorgas you should see a cadeucas on his collar, as you see on his right collar in the pic at the link.

    http://alabamapioneers.com/biograph...rn-1854-photograph-film/#sthash.TbfFGXV0.dpbs
     
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  9. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Blow it up! Blow it up!
     
  10. springfld.arsenal

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    Maybe the OP would be able to post a better, larger, maybe clearer image centered on his collar. Not much to work with now.
     
  11. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    hope this is a little clearer, thank you all Have spent most of day reading about and looking at pics on google.
     

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  12. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    HA!! Good job....I tried with Photoshop and another filter, but there just isn't enough there to clarify!! Definitely two pins or medals, but what they are is anyone's guess.....
    Sue
     

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  13. springfld.arsenal

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    On his right collar, directly under his right side of his mouth you should see a roughly "T" shaped insignia which may be a cadeucas, see what u think. U should be able to click on the image to enlarge it a bit. Here's an Army Medical Corps officer cadeucas insignia from ca. 1898-1917.Photo posted under doctrine of fair use for educational purposes.
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  14. springfld.arsenal

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    Have to correct one thing I mentioned above, that I thought it was unusual to see a uniformed doctor on horseback.

    Found this: "In 1866, Josiah Gorgas and several other investors reopened an existing iron works at Brierfield, Alabama, and his family joined him there. The years in Brierfield were happy for the family, and young William Crawford fished, hunted, and rode horseback, activities that he enjoyed throughout his life. And despite his father's vehement opposition, the young Gorgas dreamed of a military career." - See more at: http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/h-1048#sthash.VWoMRkU4.dpuf

    I'm now about 90% certain the postcard photo depicts Dr. William Crawford Gorgas.
     
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  15. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    Mystery solved, It is"Galloping" Jim Parker.
     
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  16. springfld.arsenal

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    Well that's certainly possible, too. You should give some reasoning behind that conclusion to give it credibility.

    Anyone have another explanation for the "t" shaped collar insignia to the left of what could only be a US insignia, even though we can't see that one clearly . We know it would match the US on his left collar, which we can see. Here's bio and photo of the cavalry Gen. Jim Parker. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Parker_(Medal_of_Honor)

    Is it possible that the postcard pic was mis-identified by the person who gave the info to the OP? I'm not too clear on how the previous ID came about.
     
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  17. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    I was put in touch with a local historian, and sent him a pic, He said he was very familiar with it, and said that is was probably from 1915-16 era, when he served here in the Rio Grande Valley, I found a book on line and pic on front bears a distinct resemblance to the photo. thanks again for all the help and suggestions to everyone,
     
  18. springfld.arsenal

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    Thanks. We'd still want an explanation of two pretty glaring uniform discrepancies-the T-shaped collar insignia and the missing Medal of Honor, which Gen. Jim Parker won in 1899 and would certainly have been wearing in this photo taken in later years. The doctor and the cavalryman do bear a facial resemblance which makes the disambiguation more difficult.

    Pic of Gen. Parker late in life. He is wearing four medals incl MOH. The three medals together look to be different from what OP's picture subject is wearing. Remember the medals are always worn in the same order, which is the "order of precedence" prescribed by the service.

    http://www.old-picture.com/american-legacy/004/Parker-General-James.htm
     
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  19. nursenancy4

    nursenancy4 Active Member

    I understand what you are saying Springfld, I am taking this pic to him when I go to Padre Island(where he lives) hopefully early next month and I will ask him all of this, thanks you so much, sorry I cant get a clearer pic of the collar,I will keep trying though, ,
     
  20. springfld.arsenal

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    Sounds like a plan!
     
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