Pair of carriage lamps, what's the oily springy thing?

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  1. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    This is a left/right pair of late 19th C carrige lamps, black painted metal, nothing fancy, but I have a question. The long base part pulls away revealing a cloth covered spring, rather oily. Some sort of automatic wick?

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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Not sure about that for wouldn't that push the wick up out of the oil? But then again...it won't go far and should be holding the oil anyway.
     
  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    It may be the wick can only get out of the top as it burns away to carbon dust.
     
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  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I agree.
     
  5. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    No patent marks anywhere? I'm sure you went over them pretty good but sometimes the marks can be near impossible to see. I had a something or other I had gone over several times finding no marks. I had it out at a show the first person picks it up and spots a mark right away. 'Course we Americans like to splash the ol' "patent" wherever we could. I have noticed a similar slant in English stuff though. Just sayin' here they would for sure have a patent date somewhere.
     
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  6. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    There's a car somewhere screaming for them.
    Jay Leno maybe?
    I know.... Carriage but still....
     
  7. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Nowww I'm not up on this type of lamp. These appear to be carriage candle lamps. The spring thingy is called a candle stem. As the candle burns melting the wax, the spring pushes the candle up. I haven't time to reseach now, but did find the following carriage lamps that the seller says are "missing candle stems and springs."

    http://www.colonialcarriage.com/item.cfm?id=305

    Usually the springs are missing or broken. One can buy battery candle replacements for these carriage lamps. The last ad on the following webpage.
    http://www.ponyandcarriage.co.uk/horse-carriage-coach-lamp-holders-brackets-candles-shop.htm

    --- Susan
     
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  8. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Were they burning paraffin, the only reservoir would be what is in the 'wick'.
     
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  9. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    They were candle lamps, not oil or paraffin. Here is a YouTube showing assembly of a candle stem carriage lamp - reproductions.

     
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  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I cannot imagine where they get the figure for the price of the antique ones, ($2000), as I'd estimate these at the equivalent of $100 -$150. And I'd include two free candles.

    I'll try out a couple of candles later and see if they work as planned.
     
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