Ormolu(?) Copper(?) Brass(?) or bronze small candlesticks?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Miscstuff, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    Trying to figure out the base metal and the type of gilding that I think is ormolu. The bases have two different corrosion colours with one white and one blue which confuses the heck out of me. The bases have a coating that looks like ormolu but the stems look brassy. Those leafy bits both have an uncoated area underneath (4th photo) that looks like copper with a very old patina or bronze. The capitals have two different screw sizes and look like pre-industrial screws. I’m guessing these are probably Georgian maybe 1820s but don’t know where from. Any suggestions???

    Data
    0.51Kg ea
    21.7cm High
    9.5-10.5cm base

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    nice sticks.!!!
     
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  3. MT Vessel

    MT Vessel Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately they are not very old. They are quite low quality reproductions or in an antique style.
    Early 19th C. to around turn of the century - or a little later - brass castings were of much higher quality. Definition was better and the castings were hand finished. Ormolu is gilded bronze - often seen on high quality French furniture fittings. Sorry to say that these aren’t ormolu from what I can see.

    By the way, antique brass always has a patina from years of use and polishing.
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't see it either.
    The style looks French to me.
     
  5. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    This is not my area, but the part that would sit on the table really reminds me of the bases of a lamp that my grandparents had. It was quite heavy.
     
  6. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    Yep they appear to be French. There are stylized fleur-de-lis all over them.
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  7. Virginia Snyder

    Virginia Snyder New Member

    Frequently things are weighted therefore people think things are of better quality because they are weighted. I worked with phones and realized the ones that were landlines and heavier simply had some type of weight inside it. I became aware lamps are sometimes done that way also.
     
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  8. columba

    columba Member

    I agree brass,probably sand cast,not lost wax castings,
    do not look gilded.

    Columba.
     

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