Orangy beads

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Hi2022, Jan 26, 2025.

  1. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    Are this beads amber/ bakelite glass or some other stone

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  2. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    I believe they are prayer beads made of Faturan. This topic has come up before so you may have luck searching old posts while you wait for those more familiar with Middle Easter religious practices to chime in.
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They look like amber-wannabe.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They are tesbih/tasbeh, but I have never seen that kind of shading on Faturan, and they are not amber.
    I suspect they are some sort of plastic.

    Just to be sure though, are they warm or cold to the touch?
    If you rub them, do you get an incense-like smell?
     
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  5. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    They feel first cold and after 30 sec they feels warm.

    I rubbed them a minute and im not sure what to think. slightly perhaps hereis a picture of those in day light. 20250127_124608_copy_732x860.jpg 20250127_124923_copy_756x1008.jpg 20250127_124754_copy_605x806.jpg 20250127_124812_copy_756x1008.jpg 20250127_124828_copy_655x1008.jpg
     
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  6. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    i newer heard about Faturan. so thank you
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    When you say cold, do you mean as cold as glass?

    Did you test for Bakelite?
    Faturan is a mix of Bakelite and natural (fossil) resins like amber or incense, depending on where it was made and who made it. Every manufacturer had his own recipe.
    They stopped making it in 1940, when the supply of Bakelite dried out.
    A lot of Faturan was made in Turkey, where they are now mass-producing fake Faturan, mainly for tesbih. So this is where the red flag comes out.:nailbiting:;)
     
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  8. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    it feels warmer than glass . How do i test those for bakelite?
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The way I test for Bakelite is to put some baking soda on a slightly moistened q-tip (wattenstaafje) and rub it on a bead. If the baking soda turns brownish or reddish it is Bakelite.
     
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  10. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    I hope i tested proprrly. Rubed 20-30 sec per tesbih this is the result of all rubbing 20250127_142329_copy_756x1008.jpg
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think your beads are modern plastic.
     
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  12. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Try the tooth tap test...tap them on your front teeth, then tap known glass and known plastic. You will immediately be able to tell the difference :)
     
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  13. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Not bakelite. Bakelite will turn the swab yellow-brown or brown, and if you do it next to your nose it ill stink to high heaven. I just bought some beads that looked like cherry "prystal" bakelite, but felt far too light. Not real amber though; the cotton swab test was yellow brown and stank of formaldehyde. Bakelite.
     
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  14. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    It feels different than glass or plastic. I donno how to describe but the tapping feels lighter than glass and harder than plastic
     
  15. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    There is almost no odor if i rub the beads very hard then i smell a very very light odor
     
  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Nope. With bakelite the pong is distinctive.
     
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  17. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    Thanks for explaining! I knew just enough to make me a danger in replying since I had seen similar things. Best to be quiet and learn!
     
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  18. Curioser

    Curioser Well-Known Member

    Good to know! I've bought/keep all kinds of specialty solutions over the years just to test for Bakelite!
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Faturan is one of the most difficult materials to identify, and the later fakes don't help.:(
     
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  20. Dessert58

    Dessert58 Well-Known Member

    New fakes of wannabe faturan/bakelite/amber are flooding the market zs we speak.
    Lots of them are teshbih
    I accidentaly got one in a lot of old jewelry I bought a few weeks ago.
    These beads have a very bad chemical smell to them or no smell at all. Under UV they glow like your beads do. No reaction to simichrome and no nice bakelite sound when you 'cloink' them against something.
    They don t have a seem but they do sometimes have weird 'holes' in them.
    Be vigiliant
     
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