Old Elephant Clock - with Fusee Mechanism

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  1. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member

    I searched - the fusee mechanism was used as early as the mid-14th century, and as late as the end of the 19th century - the Elephant Clock is about 7 inched wide at the base and stands about 9 inches high. The clock would fit into the large pocket watch cases used in the early 19th century.

    Does anyone recognize the timepiece maker based on the names on the base plate?

    Thanks in advance for any id or ideas.

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  2. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Not easy to tell from the photos, but I almost think the clock is older than the elephant base. That part looks late 19th early 20th century.
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Love the elephant, the maker had clearly never seen one, or a good picture of one. Long tail and hippopotamus legs and feet, wonderful.
     
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  4. buyingtime777

    buyingtime777 Well-Known Member

    I believe the movement is basically a verge fusee watch movement which has been utilized in this clock case. Afantiques would be able to tell you the country of origin. My guess from the use of the word Eichfrett is that it is German. There were so many individuals hand making these one at a time in sheds everywhere that for the most part any history of the makers are long lost.
     
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  5. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I see it as Anston somebody of Eichstett (the f is an s at the time),Penlaintner? is a mystery, the movement is obvious European from the bridge cock, and quite reasonably German. The dial is typical of the third to fourth quarters of the 18th c, say 1760 to 1800.

    I cannot see the case as well as I'd like. There are a couple of odd things about the movement and dating it. The engraving is poor, it looks as if the odd A was a mistake and overall it just looks a bit off to me.
    The movement, despite nothing really helpful in the way of dimensions looks too tall for a watch type movement recycled but it could indeed be a small clock movement. If this is something from off the beaten track of clockmaking that may account for the anomolies.

    Does this have any provenance?
     
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  6. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member


    Thank You for your thoughts

    No provenance

    I guessed the A as advance
    And the R as retard

    I will add photos and measurements

    Mo
     
  7. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I had not noticed the R, sloppy of me. The type of regulation is unusual for the apparant period.
     
  8. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member

    Afantiques
    - more images - dimensions
    face plate = 50mm
    base plate - 25mm however two parts add 3.2mm of hangover
    Notice one image seems to have part of toothed part hanging down - can't miss it as it hangs down on the left side of the image
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  9. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member

    will add case images today yet
     
  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The movement appears to be a typical verge escapement design. The toothed part hanging down that you refer to may be the contrate wheel. I can see nothing to alter my opinion that the movement is of late 18th C design.
    The quoted size seems odd, 25mm across the back plate. You must have minute digits if those are your fingers.
     
  11. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Can you post some more detailed photos of the base?
     
  12. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member

    More and corrected measurements
    Face OD is 56mm
    Case ID is 57mm
    Case Depth 20mm
    Case Depth with covers is 34mm
    Base plate OD is 36mm

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  13. Mo Bjornestad

    Mo Bjornestad Well-Known Member

    Here are a few - let me know if you would like to zoom in on any point of interest
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