old copy ,of 18th cent painting.

Hi Members
This painting on a very thin poplar panel 5mm ,is a copy of a very early painting .
I tracked down the previous owner in England (Yeovil ,Somerset) who said her grandfather purchased the painting around 1900. (old label on the the back) on second old oak timber section ,Painting was split across and glued to the oak as support.
I have had it restored and separated from oak panel.

Will let members know the original artist ,if members cannot discover him.


Columba

 

The place to start is with a Google Images search to see if you can easily find a match.

Debora

 

I've done that for you and... No match.

Debora

 

@Debora - I believe that columba knows who the original artist was:

 

Wow, that's a tough image to search. So many Holy Family paintings. Fewer with cherries. I only found one image with baby Jesus eating them.

These are the closest I could find...
https://www.alamy.com/the-holy-fami...&imageurl=&saveQry=&editorial=1&t=0&filters=0

https://www.alamy.com/heilige-famil...h-256-mm-w-204-mm-subject-image348428760.html

 

Yes I do know the original artist,I seem to have a knack for buying copies after old masters,(find this out later) probably not a surprise as most things done are usually copies of something done before .
I stumbled on the original whilst looking in an art book in a local library .

Then when overseas on holidays went to see the original, and discovered something more interesting about my painting.

Columba.

 

I'm all ears.

 

Ah, I misunderstood. Thought you needed our help.

Debora

 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adriaen_van_der_Werff_005.jpg

 

Thanks @say_it_slowly , I had no idea how long we would have to wait.
I thought it looked Dutch. Apparently it is still in its original place, in the hidden church 'Ons Lieve Heer op Solder' (Our Dear Lord in the Attic) in Amsterdam.

 

So not a copy then but inspired by (which explains the struggle the artist had with executing the Madonna's legs and feet.)

Debora

 

That struck me too, and I wondered why, but seeing the photo of the original explains it. Pity the rose symbolism is like an afterthought, partially hidden behind the frame.

 

Geez, in my second search I cropped the image like that too. That's when the older etchings turned up.

 

Lovely painting (the original.) In the Rijksmuseum.

Debora

 

Google makes us all sound clever, I did go looking for it in the Rijksmusem,and the church in the attic,was not in either place,it was in storage, The one above does look a little like mine dozen it? It was painted in 1714 a fair while ago as we know now by Adrien Van Der Werff 1659- 1722.
except members may be interested that mine is not a copy of this one,
It it a copy of the 1st version he did in 1702.
I hope members found it and interesting post.

Still do not know how old mine is and where it was done and by whom.
By the way for those that have not here of Werff,he was classed as a FINE painter and was the highest paid artist of his day.

Columba

 

That's interesting. Thank you for posting.

Debora

 

Thanks for the information on the first version.

It does?

In Dutch it is always van der Werff, never Werff. Werff without van der is like saying speare instead of Shakespeare.

 

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