Featured Odd huge heavy glass beads (soda) - opinions?

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  1. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Bought these ages ago, I've been rummaging. Huge heavy glass beads, one lot on string, one on chain. I'd say not wearable, so what are they?

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  2. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    I get the distinct impression the beads are old if not old,old or possibly even old,old,old. How regular the drilled holes are may be a clue but I'm almost as far from an expert in glass beads as it is possible to get.:bag:
     
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  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    My gut feel is considerable age, too. If only a museum were open..........!
     
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  4. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    They almost have a sea glass look to them. Is the wirework round or square?. The page always crashes when I try to zoom in on my elderly iPad.
     
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Rounded wires, which look hand done.
     
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  6. Northern Lights Lodge

    Northern Lights Lodge Well-Known Member

    Are the holes actually "drilled" or are they formed when the glass was still hot? That may have an impact on age.

    Leslie
     
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  7. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Was thinking recycled glass -- first thought, could be off. But agree unusual, they seem to be hand done due to lack of uniformity, etc.

    Good suggestion from Leslie to check how they were drilled.
     
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  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Oh, good thinking Leslie. I'll have a look in the morning, better light.
     
  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    @Northern Lights Lodge . Leslie, not drilled but formed. Looks as though they were blown round a form: they are as rounded inside as out. But not machine done, I'd say.
     
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  10. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    They look a bit like someone has had a go at making beads in their shed.
     
  11. Northern Lights Lodge

    Northern Lights Lodge Well-Known Member

    I wish I knew more about old beads... seems to me that, formed, rather than machine done would make them older. But, that's just a guess on my end...
    Leslie
     
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  12. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I don't know much about beads but somewhere I do have a few books, primarily because I was finding some in archaeological sorting. I will go look to see what I can find in them if someone who knows doesn't show up.

    I think there were some beads where the glass was melted like lamp work glass, drawn out thinly (like a long thread), then wrapped around a rod. Looking at your beads that would seem to fit what I think I'm seeing with the direction of the glass.

    If they are blown and then drawn (think of a long straw) the glass striations run lengthwise I think and these look like the striations run the opposite.

    But then I don't know much and remember even less.
     
  13. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Maybe “core formed” is the term?
     
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  14. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Actually I think wound is what I'm thinking of with the other type called drawn.
     
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  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think core formed could work: the banding on these is latitidunal, as it were. But yes, they're wound not drawn.
     
  16. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I gave a look through a few books I have and I don't know anything more than when I started other than maybe AJ would know if they look like Dutch beads.

    The larger beads in this first group are almost 3 cm. (Sorry but the picture really is that bad.)

    From: Proceedings of the 1982 Glass Trade Bead Conference, Research Records No. 16, 1983

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    Assorted bubbly glass beads
    From: Beads of the World by Peter Francis Jr

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  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    You've had fun! ;)

    Really interesting. That first Afghan bead is very close.
     
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  19. wenna

    wenna Well-Known Member

    @Ownedbybear Do you do FaceBook? If so, there is a group called Bead Hunters. I just joined it recently. They seem to be very well informed about ancient/antique/vintage/ethnic/etc beads. You could try there. I would be willing to post your pics if you do not have a FaceBook account...let me know. I think these are interesting beads. I kind of agree with @KSW ...made in a shed, perhaps with recycled glass...but you never know...I certainly don't.
     
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I do indeed do Facebook. I'll try that, good thought. Thank you.
     
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