Noritake M pattern, cannot find it

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  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    This is another piece from my neighbor who rescued a few things from her aunt's house. She brought back several pieces in this pattern, most notably --in terms of finding the pattern, there is a sugar bowl with applied bees. (I thought with those bees I'd narrow the pattern down in matter of seconds, but turns out Noritake had several patterns with applied bees on the sugar!) I went to a few sites, but gave up with no leads. For now I just have a photo of the one plate.

    The background color almost looks white, but it is a faint blue. Anyone familiar with this pattern? Thanks!

    disnori1.jpg disnori2.jpg
     
  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's an older one; they were still using the Morimura Brothers import mark. They went to an N in 1953, and it's post-1921. That's a lot of territory, but odds are it's pre-WWII. This page has a lot of the marks: http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/noritake.shtml
     
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  3. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I've been told that a lot of Noritake patterns never had names - just production numbers.
     
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  4. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Evelyn. Do you know of any site that shows the patterns based and allows you to narrow the search by date? It is kind of overwhelming how many patterns there are for Noritake. If you search Noritake on Ebay, just realized there are 98,000 matches -- this might be a losing battle. Some patterns seem to have names (I think the older pieces do) but others just numbers. I was thinking the applied bees on the sugar was going to narrow it down, no such luck.

    Friend was just wondering if these were worth listing on Ebay, without a pattern name it might not make sense, but she could still donate. I'm sure someone would want them. She doesn't have a huge set. Sugar is missing the lid, really what is left is some plates, a coffee pitcher and a creamer.
     
  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    No idea. Replacements.com has a ton of photos but there's no date sort. There's probably a Noritake collector's book out there somewhere but I don't have it.
     
  6. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    >I was thinking the applied bees on the sugar was going to narrow it down, no such luck.<

    Are you sure that the bees are on a sugar? I have seen a few Noritake honey pots with applied bees.

    >Replacements.com<

    I did a cursory search through the Noritake patterns on replacements.com with no luck on spotting this pattern. Of course it could have been there and my eyes didn't pick-it up scrolling through the myriads of thumbnails. If you look at the bottom of the following page, you will see an index of Noritake patterns with literally pages of only numbered patterns. If you click the blue margin on the left that says "Click Here For Image Gallery," you can scroll through literally pages of thumbnails of Noritake patterns:
    http://www.replacements.com/china/N.htm

    --- Susan
     
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  7. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Of course, a honey pot! That must be what had the bees! I thought it was a sugar missing the lid, but I'm sure you are correct. That makes a lot more sense.

    Before I posted here I gave it a shot on replacements.com -- but, I'm not kidding, I think there were over 100 Noritake patterns that....started with the letter "A". Then I realized, I could spend hours going through the alphabet, and if they don't have this pattern in stock, it won't be there anyway. I had absolutely no idea Noritake made so many different patterns. Posting here was a bit of a long shot, and very much appreciate everyone that took a look! Thanks Evelyn, Susan and Moreotherstuff.
     
  8. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    You can use the search box on replacements.com to narrow the search to something like Noritake dinner plate yellow scrolls, but I didn't find this one. You have to guess what the employee who put it into their system was thinking at the time!
    Janet
     
  9. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    I'm up to the "c"s, but haven't found it yet. :happy:

    You do know that one can click on the blue bar on the left, and then all the photos show up. You don't have to click on each pattern name.
     
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  10. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank you Janet and Messi,

    Please don't spend too much time on looking at Replacements -- unless it is fun to see all the patterns or something. Noritake did make some amazing designs.

    I smugly volunteered to "just quickly look up the pattern" (argh, famous last words...) and then got home, realized, nearly hopeless. I looked at a few hundred on Ebay using various key words, "bees" "blue" etc., then went to Replacements and realized I could be spending hours on this and still not have an answer.

    The nicest piece she has is this tall pitcher or coffee pitcher, but even so, she doesn't do Ebay, so I guess it would only be to check whether this particular one had some kind of unique value, which I'm thinking it doesn't.

    I very much appreciate the help, but please don't go too out of your way anyone. (I might need your gracious help for something else more personally profitable...)

    I recall Messi found a Gorham silverware pattern for me a few years ago -- that was a nice and a helpful $ piece of info. I think I sold the set for $140. :happy:

    I don't want to wear out my welcome!
     
  11. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Lucille, I truly have noting else to do, so don't fret.
    I kind of enjoy it anyway. :)
     
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  12. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Soooo . . .
    I don't know how many pages there are, but I looked at every one.
    Didn't find it.

    It is possible that I slid past it, but it is a fairly distinctive pattern, so I don't think so.
    Another possibility is that it was one of the "Image Not On File" ones.
     
  13. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    tried a Google image search as saw lots of pretty plates; some with similar colors but no match : (
     
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  14. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much Messi and Tallcakes,

    I appreciate all the work you put in, I'm sure my friend would say, "thanks", too. Well, we gave it the "old college try". Thank you! I'm going to recommend she consign the pieces that are in perfect shape if she has nowhere else to go with them. She might have some other ideas about donating, not sure. It is a colorful pattern, I think someone would want a piece or two just decoratively. They seem a bit a bit Deco, a bit classic. I think a quite pretty combination of colors, alas, my cupboards are full already...
     
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