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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Steve Johnson, Oct 3, 2021.

  1. Steve Johnson

    Steve Johnson New Member

    E78A0A0A-5C4D-48E1-8119-9A6DA0C9FE3F.jpeg 36949D38-511D-4E2A-B8C2-028511B6658F.jpeg Hello! I recently inherited three vases and in researching them learned that they belonged to my great-great aunt. She was born in 1876. If they are older than that I can’t tell. Based on what I can see they are in the Satsuma style. I cannot find any identifying marks, clan marks etc. I’d like to nail this down and would appreciate any direction you could give me.
     
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  2. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Moved to Pottery Forum.
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Steve! Are there any marks on the bottom?
     
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  4. Steve Johnson

    Steve Johnson New Member

    nothing. I looked carefully in case they were faint. Nothing inside the vase or on the inside of the lid. I actually forgot to take a pic of the lid but it has a dragon on it with one front paw on what looks like a ball
     
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    There's no question that it's Japanese. Beyond that I have no idea.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    She was born in 1876.

    are you suggesting she got these as a christening gift ?
     
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  7. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    As you have already noted they are Japanese Satsuma ware made for export. The style is suggestive they date from around 1890 to 1920. As they are unmarked it is not going to be possible to date them more accurately nor determine the maker/artist. Many 100's of makers and artists produced similar work, most pieces were produced in volume in factories by pieceworkers.
     
  8. Steve Johnson

    Steve Johnson New Member

    All I know for sure is that according to our family history, she had them by the time she was married at age 22. That could mean they were a present, but newlyweds couldn’t really afford something so nice at the outset so it may have been a wedding gift from her own mother
     
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  9. Steve Johnson

    Steve Johnson New Member

    was it common for pieces to be unmarked?
     
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  10. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Do they all have lids? A lid makes it...not a vase.
     
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  11. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Yes very common, about 50/50 marked/unmarked from my experience.
     
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  12. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    These wouldn't have been hugely expensive in their time, they were made in volume and would have been easily affordable by a middle class family and even for more well off working class.
     
  13. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    The absence of "Made in Japan" or some such legend dates them before the early 1920s when that marking became required for import.
     
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  14. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    That's often written, but it's not correct. Items from China and Japan were not routinely marked in Latin script until post WW2. During the inter war period in some cases they would have paper stickers on which are no longer present, and in other cases just the packaging was marked. The requirements were also sometimes ignored completely.
     
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  15. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I wasn't aware....so much for the history of imports...
     
  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Paper labels were in use right into the 1980s, so a missing label means precisely nothing.
     
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