New guy with two antiques; one easy, one hard

Hey, all. I have two fun ones that I'm trying to ID.

First one is a walking stick/cane which is a scabbard for a sword. I have found others like it, so I don't think it's a rare, one-of-one thing. Don't care about value, just trying to figure out its provenance so I can research it. (and before you mention it, I am licensed to own/carry it, but it lives permanently in a safe)

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/YXSDQKYAKyXTGPCv9

The second one is a big question mark. I don't even know what they are. Again, not interested in value, I just have no idea what they are.

 

Hi, Curtis!

How long are those items?

 

Well, I can download the images and repost them, but it will have to wait until better internet. Google photos doesn't play well with sharing.

The group of pointy things probably range from 12-18". Some wood, some brass, one appears to be a clear plastic like maybe acrylic or lucite. The little offset balls/things are all either wood, some kind of plastic, or the same metal as the thing. A friend sent me this photo and asked me if I knew what they were. A year into trying to figure it out, we're still stumped. I'm not overly worried about their specifics, I just want to know what the heck they are. Like if I posted a picture of a screwdriver, you would just say "it's a screwdriver" without asking "what is the handle made of?" I was hoping someone would recognize the pieces and say "oh, those are [insert name] used for [insert activity]."

 

I might have the file security right. Try these.

 

Most people know what a screwdriver is,but giving us size,materials,etc. helps the process. Example... what is in the photo and what was it used for??

 

I understand what you're saying, but in that photo I can identify an SAE 5/16 or 3/8 coarse-thread, grade 2, zinc-plated bolt with a nut and washer and a spoon. That's really more than I'm looking for.

I don't need to know 5/16 coarse-thread grade 2, zinc plated, all I need to know is "oh, that's a bolt. It's used for fastening things together, and that's a spoon used for eating."

 

So you really didn't know what they are/were used for.They are a ring mandrel and hammer,used by many sailors during WW2 and probably before that time.They were used for making silver rings from coins.

 

I really don't know what they are.

I did give serious consideration to some kind of Mandrel, but they are more pointy than any ring mandrel I've seen. They also lack any gauge. Also, I can't imagine the plastic and wooden knobs being very effective at doing anything to silver.

 

I also searched every Fid I could find and none of them match.

 

Could be from India... https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-...-ebonised-sword-stick-with-horn-handle-carved

 

Here's a thread on a similar:

https://www.survivalistboards.com/threads/sword-cane-stick-sword-anyone-an-expert.303697/

 

Found that thread and a few more. No one lists a specific manufacturer or origin, but it does appear to be Colonial British/Indian.

Any more ideas on the spiky things?