Need help with old Native American painting signature

Discussion in 'Art' started by benbenny007, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. benbenny007

    benbenny007 I buy rubbish, and sell antiques

    Tank you for taking the time. I need help me please with signature.

    I recently bought 3 paintings together from a local charity shop. One pastel, one pencil, and a collage mixed media. My interest went to the picture with the lady and I didn't thought much about the other two pictures.

    Now I did remove the picture of the lady from the frame to research it, and I vagly could see a signture which is the same as on the other two pictures.

    Now because the picture of the lady is very well executed in collage and color, I'm starting to think that this could be a establhised artist.

    I guess that it is a American artist because of the Native American portrait and the landscape drawing which also looks like it could have been somewhere in the U.S..

    Any Info/input is welcome.

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Would love to help, but can't see it, Benny......:confused:
     
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  3. benbenny007

    benbenny007 I buy rubbish, and sell antiques

    Happy New Year.. I just realized when it was to late. I have edited it.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And Gelukkig Nieuwjaar to you too.
    Thanks for adding the photos.;) With some I'm not sure what I am looking at, though.
    Native American, would that be the gent with the eagle? Are you sure he is not Central Asian? I'm thinking of the Central Asian custom of hunting with eagles and the design on his trouser leg.
     
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  5. benbenny007

    benbenny007 I buy rubbish, and sell antiques

    Thank you.. I think it is a Native American man but not so sure of that. I was thinking that the pictures are done by a American artist because of the landscape, trees, fens and such and the clothing hanging on the lines look also western to me. but I just googled the Asian hunters and I think you are right.
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  6. i need help

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  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Could well be an image that someone copied out of National G.

    Debora
     
  8. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I would be thinking Central Asian for the one with the eagle also.
    Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan, possibly (West Mongolia). The design on the footwear appears to be appropriate for that area. And sniped by INH and Debora.

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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I have boots from Bhutan, they have similar applications.
     
  13. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    ummm

    I do believe @i need help nailed it...

    My friend did exactly that - copied National Geographic images - when she started painting in her 50s.

    I was just looking at them over New Years... some of them were reallllllly bad!

    I love a lot of her work now, but those pieces still proudly hang in her home.
     
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  14. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    That was The On The Ball as Always, Debora. :)
     
  15. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    yes, absolutely - @Debora woke me to what I forgot I knew! :D
     
  16. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    they're all by the same artist? I love the clothesline piece <3
     
  17. benbenny007

    benbenny007 I buy rubbish, and sell antiques

    Thanks all for the input. Yes All the evidence points to those directions. I have removed them from the frame and they are indeed not so old as i had thought. The paper is very modern. Luckily I didn't pay much for them
     
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