Need Help w 2 Glass Items - Poss. Blenko and poss. Victorian?

I've seen these before and thought they'd be easy to ID, but Noooo, they're proving difficult. Are they Blenko? That's what I'm thinking. They are 6 1/2" high and the glass is thick and both are heavy-ish.



This 2nd piece I think I've seen before as well, but I'm not finding it on line. It measures 5 3/4" square. Wish I had a silver holder for it. Is it Victorian? Is it Loetz? Any help is appreciated. TY!

 

Definitely not Loetz on the second piece.

 

Don't know who made them but the first are hyacinth vases I believe.

 

The bulb vases are available new and old, yours looks newer to me. The 2nd piece is made with a hand "crimping" tool after the plate was formed. Lack of wear and hand work says China or Turkey to me.

 

Ok, thank you everyone! I was way off base. No wonder I was having problems IDing them. I didn't pay much and they're pretty so I think they will sell in my mall space. Thanks!

 

Agree with say_it_slowly, that the cobalt pair are bulb forcing vases, and with George Nesmith, that they are not antique.

 

I'll be darned, never new such a thing existed!

 

I've a friend who collects hyacinth vases, and have often grown bulbs in them myself. It's fun. They've been around since at least the early 19th C.

 

Priced right they will sell best in late winter or very early spring.

 

Blenko did make candle holders in this shape but they don't match the proportions on yours. Just thought you'd like to know your instincts aren't completely off. If you'd like to see the Blenko sticks you can google Blenko #722.

As for the bowl, there seems to be a lot of them popping up lately. Anytime I see too much of one thing all at once I get suspicious. I am not convinced they are old but I could be wrong.
Don

 

Drat that window display!! I adore hyacinths, and love the vases. So why do my bulbs-in-vases all either wither up like prunes, or drown in their own water loggedness??

 

Lots of these hyacinth vases were made in Bohemia Circa 1900, with some very high value glass decors. USA products throughout the 20th. There are collectors who only collect these, the window picture is fabulous as a great example.
The green dish looks like Fenton to me, or a recent repro, hard to tell today unless you handle it. I collect glass, mostly European, but also familiar with the other kinds to some extent.

 

Same way I learned about them, another glass collector who was also a landscaper had been buying them for 20 years. There is a blog on the internet with photos of a huge collection of these taken by the owner for an event he attended and displayed them for. I had not idea.

 

Second piece. Early 20th century. Jefferson had a patent on that process, didn't include that design, may not have covered any other design. Their pattern had concentric half circles around the outside.

 

You need to plant the bulbs in September or October. The trick is to keep the base of the bulb just off the meniscus of the water - literally just touching it till the roots grow down. A nice light cool place please.

 

Thank you, thank you, thank you! These bowls have been driving me nuts.
Don

 

You may not be giving your bulbs enough "cool time" Bulbs need the cool temps to simulate being planted in the ground in fall and cooling over the winter. When you bring them into your house after the cool period that simulates the warm spring conditions, and your bulbs will then start growing

https://oldhousegardens.com/ForcingBulbs

 

I thought a meniscus was on my knee...?

 

Actually, the second piece looks more like an insert for a bride basket ca. 1880-1900. The inserts/bowls often get separated from the metal baskets.

 

Looks like you've got the RIGHT spot!!!!! VERY PRETTY!!!!!!!!