Native American Baskets

I talked about these previously from "that house".

We went yesterday and picked up around 400 pieces (not counting the arrow heads)..
Sorry the pictures aren't stellar, we spent all day unpacking, sorting, and beginning to lot the items..
I snapped these walking out the door this afternoon

There's also a good many split oak baskets some of yall asked about.
I didn't get a chance to get a picture of them yet.

What do yall make of these?
New old?
Specific tribes?

 

I don't know baskets but I am an arrowhead aficionado and look forward to pictures of those!

 

Im about to post a few now.
Stick around for a few mins!

 

Don't worry I will be around a couple of hours!

 

BTW you are looking for patina on the arrowheads. It is usually rust colored and will be in small areas on the cut faces. This represents thousands of years of it sitting since it was cut. The majority of genuine stone arrowheads are Paleo and are thousands of years old, often 7-10 thousand years old. Newly knapped arrowheads will have no patina.

 

At least one is West African. The flat one with the reddish coloring is probably Nigerian. I'm not expert enough to guess on the rest.

 

the only NA one is bottom right in the 1st pic.......
northeast usa....likely micmac..maybe mohawk..

Dark one...far left...Lombok Island...

2nd to last photo.....African grain or water storage lid.....

Taupou.....will sort the rest out for you !
@Taupou....

 

Thank you! I dont think I would have ever figured that out!
I bought a few reference books on NA at a few different thrift stores. One of them had weaving patterns and some of these had me scratching my head.
I didnt have them on had but I couldnt recall a vertical weave in any of them..
But I could still be wrong

 

This is a collection of baskets from all over the world...Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Central or South America...but none is Native American. (The little pot is, however, Acoma, ca.1930s.)

In the first picture, the little one on the bottom right is from the Philippines, made from a local plant called nito. The one in the upper left, with the lid and the beads, is from Lombok, Indonesia.

In the fifth photo, the large platter in the back is also from Lombok. It's a ketak grass basket made by the Sasak people of West Lombok. The smaller one in front of it, with the red center, is African, from Nigeria.

The lidded one in front of the Acoma pot is from east Africa, Sudan or Ethiopia, as is the one next to it, missing its lid.

The large one, with the split stitch coiling and the triangular stitched design is from Central or South America. I've seen them before, but just can't remember right now. If I have time tomorrow, I can possibly check a couple books on Central and South American crafts and see if I can find something more specific.

 

The book I always recommend to anyone thinking they want to buy Native American baskets, is Art of the Basket, Traditional Basketry from Around the World, by Bryan Sentance. It does show many Native American baskets, but more importantly, other baskets that are frequently mistaken for Native American baskets. It should be the first thing on the list for both beginning collectors, and those who buy for resale, but don't necessarily intend to specialize in the area.

 

The little one in the first photo, bottom right, does resemble some splint baskets from the northeast, in form and weaving technique, but the material it is made from is different. And it has those little round, dark brown braided rings holding the lid on...which are unique to these small and miniature Philippine baskets, often found in craft supply shops.

 

Wow...I must be off my game thinking it was an ash splint basket.....