A few years ago, I saw a frame with this Matthäus Seutter map in a thrift shop I opened the frame to see if it was a modern print, and to my surprise, it also contained these 2 Matthäus Seutter works And this one, that looks like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memorie_storiche_di_Monza_e_sua_corte_(1794)_(14779445311).jpg So when I saw the additional items, I simply bought it withouth a further check of the prints. At home I did check it, but I wasn't able, and still am not able to determine if this is a recent reprint or something older. So, here I am, once again, trying to get some help from you 2 close ups of the Matthäus Seutter: And the frame Any thoughts on how new () this is?
The closeup reveals a halftone screen pattern, which is a photographic method of reproduction. Such methods became practical in the late 19th century, with variations of the process continuing through today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halft...redited,proposed during the following decades. The page of medals/seals(?) looks like it may be an original engraving taken from a book.
Shouldn't those halftone dots also be clearly visible in the black lines? I looked at the original with a loupe, and the black lines seemed more solid than the rest. And obviously the one with the medals/seals/? is the only original ... as that's the only one that is damaged...
Halftone printing uses four colors -- cyan, magenta, yellow, and black -- in combination as needed to create other colors. Black will often appear as solid black because it doesn't need the addition of another color. A genuine period map would be hand-colored and those "dots" wouldn't be visible. Debora
Maps of that period would also be on laid paper. It looks like this: (You won't usually see those large spots; they're flaws called vatman's tears.)
Thank you for your answers. I already didn't think this would be of the period, but as it also doesn't look like a very modern print, I was curious to know if they would be older than I am As the medals look a lot like these and have a similar Italian text, I assume it was part of 'Memorie storiche di Monza e sua corte'
Would you tell us why you assume that? I ask because, although they do appear to be the same, they're not laid out in an identical manner. Debora
Indeed a wrong assumption. I thought they were similar, so I assumed they would appear on another page, but then I saw that mine has a combination of those on the sheets between page 24 and 25 of https://archive.org/details/memoriestoriched01fris/page/25/mode/1up?view=theater + a few others
If I read the index correctly, the images are of Relics found at the Basilica of St John Baptist (https://archive.org/details/memoriestoriched01fris/page/278/mode/1up?view=theater&q=24)
The illustrations appear to depict pilgrimage ampullae preserved in the Treasury of Monza Cathedral. If not from the Memorie storiche di Monza e sua corte, perhaps from another publication on the same subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monza_ampullae
Ha! You beat me to it. I hadn't seen you had already posted this while I kept searching. And now that I had finally found the ampullae info, I come back here .. to discover you were much faster And now I see that at the bottom of the wiki-page I mentioned, the Categories list includes ....Ampolle di Terrasanta
