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Discussion in 'Art' started by rs500cat, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:57 AM.

  1. rs500cat

    rs500cat New Member

    Looking for info on the artist and value of this painting which has been in the family for at least 60 years. Unknown where it came from. Canvas is 25x30 inches. Thanks, Ron front.jpeg IMG_1398.jpeg IMG_1400.jpeg
     
  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  3. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    She's quite well done. Beautiful face and lace. I love the tiny brooch detail.
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    where r u located....
    can you see a signature?
    was it ever hung or framed?

    unless we can find out it's origin & age.... the value is what someone will pay for it..

    have u asked any family members their opinions??
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like a husband had a painting of his young wife commissioned.
     
  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, those gigot sleeves and the style of the cap are 1830-40.
    She is lovely.
    The painter concentrated on her beautiful face, the other parts are a bit more sketchy. Maybe a master painter for the face, and his apprentice(s) for the other parts.

    Given her dress, jewellery and looks she could have been painted anywhere in Western or Central Europe imo, so if you have more information about where your family lived, you could get closer to her origin.
    Since I live in Europe, I can't comment on a possible US origin.

    The wood could also be a clue, so tagging furniture experts @verybrad and @Ghopper1924 for help.
     
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  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Agree re dating. Late Georgian into early Victorian.

    Debora
     
  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Might there be a signature bottom right?

    Best my phone ap can do from this photo
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  9. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    @Any Jewelry I didn’t receive your tag. Don’t know what’s up with that, but my notifications are definitely inconsistent.

    The wood looks like age-appropriate pine.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Thank you.:)
     
  11. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Lovely portrait and pretty lady. Weird that a painting as good as this was not framed? Or must have been taken out of the frame at some stage. Must have been a professional artist.
     
  12. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    She's lovely,wich helps her value tremendously . I agree with ANY ,the face is exquisite ,the rest not as well done (yet still lovely) .
     
  13. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

  14. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Agree. No real clues to whether this is American or European.
     
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  15. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Looks like quite a bit of detail in the hand as well. The shape of the hand could be a little wonky I can’t tell for sure. The skin looks like it’s done well though. Any writing on the back of the canvas or stretcher anywhere?
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the hand is nice , but the pinky could have been more detailed... imo

    also , the earrings and garnet brooch , seem as though....afterthoughts..
     
  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it is. Hands are difficult to draw and paint and this one is proof, although I've seen much worse.

    As an aside, some painters had special hand models, because not every woman has beautiful hands. Several of my foremothers were asked to be hand models by their artist friends and relatives. So if you think so many 19th century women had the same hands, they did, only those weren't their own hands.:playful:
     
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  18. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    On hands, there's also the logistics of a commissioned painting. They could take quite some time to do good ones and the sitter would be there for days (trying to sit still which is really painful after a while) if an artist didn't employ short cuts. Prepratory sketches were fast, as were prep oils on really grand commissions. For a regular professional you'd keep your sitter only long enough to get that face right, then everything else was secondary. You kept the costume to put on another model. You did the same hands you knew to do from imagination. The background was vague and if there were props or furniture, you kept those for later. Etc.

    These hands look vague enough to be done from the artist's imagination and don't look like they were done strictly from life as the likeness may have been.
     
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