Featured Large Decorated bowl - birds and insects

Another box, another old bowl, heavy pottery, over 11 inches diameter. This one has no makers marks at all and an obvious stapled repair from the back. The decoration seems Chinese to me, though I could believe Japanese, but the border seems maybe Islamic? Underglaze blue for the border, the gilding and other colors look overglaze. What are thoughts on where and when this is from?

 

Hiroshige Wood Block posted by Houseful yesterday had a similar pheasant.


https://www.antiquers.com/threads/d...ling-have-a-name-japanese.48750/#post-1911846
Here is the thread

 

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Chinese export, my guess is Tongzhi or Guangxu, unusual but very attractive border design ..butterfly motifs tend to be associated with rose canton pieces, decor looks quite canton-ish too. Rivet repair looks good too, (later type) earlier type rivets go all way through.

 

I'm with Blooey.

Isn't that repair a "staple?"

 

I think it is Chinese.
I could be wrong, but I believe by WWI, staple repairs were not used very much.
I think your plate is from the mid to late 1800s.

I found this, although not the same, the pattern is very similar. Pheasants and butterflies.
https://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/1453413

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't/weren't those stapled repairs considered acceptable repairs?? LOVE the colors & design!!!!

 

I never even knew china used to be repaired this way until I joined this forum. From what I've read here, it suggests someone valued the piece pretty highly at the time.

 

Common name in the trade for this kind of repair is "tinkered" ...as in "tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor" (or spy)

 

Staple repairs do indeed mean someone placed high value on an item. They were also used on glass - I've a HUGE cut lead crystal urn which someone obviously cared about. It rather died out pre WW1. They were expensive, time consuming and synthetic glues started to be made. It's an entire collecting field, too.

 

Hi,
My great great uncle was a china stapler. I do not know the proper term is. He was from France and repaired many of my grandmother's things. I still have a few pieces that he had done. The thing I remember most was a coffee cup with 17 metal staples in it. I do not have it now, my aunt tossed a few years after Gram died. I was so angry about it's loss. Uncle Miele always said measuring the holes and heating the staple to the right temperature before inserting was the hard part. He worked in NYC for years before retiring to the farm.
greg

 

Wow, so interesting! Too bad you don't have that cup.

 

I was wondering how it was done. Thanks.