KPM mark authenticity question

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Enzo665, Dec 30, 2023.

  1. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    This mark is on a brown painted vase with some gilt work. Advertised as KPM, circa 1850. Mark at the bottom of the porcelin vase shown here. Any opinions? My concern is the letters KPM do not look as "sharp" and " neat" as I am accustomed to.
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  3. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    Hi Debora thanks for looking! Is there a message there I can only see the original photo I posted ?.
     
  4. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Debora simply posted your image in full format so it is easier to view the mark. From what I can see it doesn't look wrong, but some bits worn off. It would help if you could post a photo of the item.
     
  5. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    Thanks!
    Image here... Screenshot_20231230_220316_eBay.jpg
     
  6. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Apologies, Enzo. I should have explained why I reposted your photograph. In the future, you'll want to make sure to use Full Image rather than Thumbnail when posting photographs for reason above. (And not to worry. All new members do the same thing in their first few posts.)

    Debora
     
  8. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    Besides the lack of sharp definition of the KPM, other concern is the lack of the blue scepter (which I know is not always present). Every other orb with the cross at the top I have seen online has a very well defined, larger KPM below it and is usally more orange in color. This one just appears like it leans to the right, the P is touching the orb, and the letters are smaller than the online examples I've reviewed etc. Could the fact this is hand painted and not inkstamped explain this, as opposed to it being a forgery?
     
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  9. Rclinftl

    Rclinftl Well-Known Member

    that is authentic KPM piece - there are fakes out there - that is not a fake mark
     
    Figtree3 and Any Jewelry like this.
  10. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    Thank you!
    Any idea on the age? It seems this mark was used 1832 forward?
     
  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  12. Enzo665

    Enzo665 New Member

    Wow great. This forum is awesome much appreciated !!
     
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  13. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

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