Kitchen Ming ?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by 15Stiftgasse, Jan 19, 2022.

  1. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    This evening, after splashing out a whole nine Euros, plus postage, I am now the lucky owner of three small plates, which should arrive probably early next week.
    I seem to remember seeing something similar in the past on some Asian ceramics website or other. If I remember correctly, the pieces were utilitarian-type wares dating back to late Ming or early Qing period and of minimal value compared to the more decorated pieces of that period.

    I'm assuming that these these plates are of the same type, but am not really sure.
    Are there any experts who might be able to give their opinion on this one ? Thanks !!!!!!


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  2. Francisco G Kempton

    Francisco G Kempton Well-Known Member

    It might have been this site that you recalled the term, as quite recently there was a dicussion about the different terms and their meaning.If i recall AJ introduced us to the term Boeren Ming which is quite a good word as it is so hard to instantly date these, and Ming is so special that you hesitate to disregard the possibility. Ken introduced us to the term Minyao ware. I prefer the term kitchen qing and if someone really knows their provincial Ming then we can go form there.

    The three terms were

    1.Kitchen Qing
    The Malaccan term usually applied to every day porcelain used there by the common people; mostly provincial blue and white 19th century Chinese export dishes and bowls with simplified decoration

    2.Minyao wares
    "Peoples wares". Chinese commercial porcelain made for trade, export and local markets, made at all other kilns except on Imperial command and at the Imperial porcelain kiln, in Jingdezhen, Jiangzi province.

    3.Boeren ming
    This so-called 'farmer's Ming' earthenware was made during the Ming dynasty, and was created for the export to the whole of Asia.


    I think your dishes are from Qing but i really am not good/strong on Chinese Ming to say they are all fom Qing period. So i guess the term Boeren ming is more suitable and a good starting point.
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2022
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  3. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    Many thanks indeed for your helpful response, Mr K !
     
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