Kangxi Mark B/W Plate - Late Qing or Later ???

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by 15Stiftgasse, Feb 28, 2022.

  1. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    Hello. I'm pondering over whether to purchase this blue and white plate which I believe bears a 4 character Kangxi mark, but is probably late 19th century.
    However, I've been a bit put off by the evidence of the Chinese export seal, which was used on either very common pieces, modern copies, or other low value items which were deemed to be of no cultural significance to the Chinese authorities.
    I appreciate that that in earlier years, such as in the 1970's, what may now be considered to be 'more desirable' items were allowed out of the PRC, as they were still relatively common at that time.
    I also considered the possibility of the plate being Japanese, but bearing a copy Chinese mark. However, there don't seem to be any spur marks on the base, and furthermore, it bears what appears to be a Chinese export seal.
    Anyway ! I'm a bit perturbed by the border decoration on the piece, which may possibly be transfer printed - looking at the broken lines in the 3 and 4 o'clock area. Okay, it might just be wear and tear, but I'm a bit hesitant.
    Which is why I'd sincerely appreciate the opinion of the more experienced collectors of Chinese ceramics.
    Your opinion would be most sincerely appreciated !

    Thanks in advance. 599_-1587029508.jpg 599_1290131874.jpg
     
  2. Francisco G Kempton

    Francisco G Kempton Well-Known Member

    Hi Gift gasse

    Would it be possible to get a closer look at the border design. In particular the area's you feel show transfer print. I have read but I am not qualified to say, but i have read that the chinese did start to transfer print the borders on some ware, I cannot recall when it started, and even if the border is transfer printed, it just might be that reason. I guess if we can determine it is transfer pritned and when the chinese started we have a window to work from. If i recall it was canton export ware, and the painting was still genuine and of good quality.

    I am guessing the rest is handpainted. I am not sure how the chinese transfer printed ( i am guessing same as western), but i do know how the english and continental were transfer printed, and they almost always have an overlapping line where the end of the transfer meets the start point of the transfer. That was always a 100% confirmation of a transfer.

    I ti s normal for the Chinese to have little breaks in their drawings/paintings of say where the hand and arm should meet, and that sometimes looks like a break youy might see in a trasnfer print but it is just their style of painting.

    I am guessing your assessment is exactly right and the border is transfer printed and some of the more experienced members might give a better insight into where this places the bowls production.

    Some people can just look as at a base and have a good idea of the time it was made.
     
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  3. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your reply, Mr K.
    Much appreciated !
     
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